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Pachter warns Wii U will finish a 'distant third' behind PS4 and Xbox One

Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter says a combination of the Wii U's technical specifications and lack of third-party support will be a challenge for Nintendo.

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Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter has spoken about how he believes Nintendo's Wii U will be unable to compete with the Xbox One and PlayStation 4, and declared that Nintendo's home console will finish a "distant third in this console race."

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"Nintendo's in trouble right now," said Pachter in an interview with ABC News. "Nintendo, I think, waited two years too long to launch a competitive console, you know, a high-definition console with the PS3 and the Xbox 360. I think by the time they did launch a console that stacks up really well, the other two guys passed them by."

Microsoft and Sony will both launch the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 later in 2013, a year after Nintendo launched the Wii U.

Pachter believes the lack of third-party publisher support will also contribute to Nintendo being unable to sell the Wii U to a mass market audience. "The publishers are pretty excited about supporting the Xbox One and the PS4. They really didn't say anything [during E3 2013] about the Wii U."

During E3 2013 Nintendo revealed its suite of first-party Nintendo software for the coming months, including Super Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8, and The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD.

Nintendo reported in April that sales of the Wii U stood at 3.45 million worldwide, as Nintendo reported a profit of ¥7.09 billion ($71.3m/£46.7m) for the financial year. Nintendo has also said that its 3DS has become the console of choice in Japan.

"We know EA has no games in development for Wii U," added Pachter. "If others follow suit, I mean if you see Activision pull support, if you see Ubisoft, you see Take 2 pull support, the Wii U is a Nintendo-only gaming device, which is the way they were back with the NES in 1985. They're not going to sell a lot of consoles if they don't have games like FIFA, and Battlefield, and Call of Duty, and Grand Theft Auto."

EA said in May that it had no games in development for the Wii U, but has since tried to retract its statement. Ubisoft continues to support the machine.

"I think [Nintendo] are at the bottom of a huge mountain with a huge uphill climb," said Pachter. "I don't think they're going to get that mojo back. I think these two guys are passing them by. And this PS4, priced $50 more than the Wii U, why would anybody buy a Wii U? Unless they just have to play Nintendo games. I think the way it actually shakes out is anybody who buys a Wii U that really is a hardcore gamer is going to buy an PS4 or an Xbox One in addition, so they can play those third-party titles they love. So I think Nintendo becomes a distant third in this console race."

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wii u sucks

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@krad_pirate How does the Wii u suck ???

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@dummpymonkey123 @krad_pirate Because it comes with a vacuum cleaner attachment. We don't want to know how he's been using it though....

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@krad_pirate I bet krad_pirate is secretley posting this on his Wii u gamepad web browser lol

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@dummpymonkey123 @krad_pirate Possibly.

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@dummpymonkey123 Because you cannot use Skype no doubt lol.

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@dummpymonkey123 Yeah, you said it.

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@19James89 @dummpymonkey123 boo hoo lol

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@19James89 @dummpymonkey123 And there aren't any rehashed shooters like Battlefield or CoD on there. Oh wait there is BO2, but that's about it.

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Nintendo just announced that Yoshi is the company's new mascot having replaced Mario after nearly 30 years. The reason for this? The Wii U is already a dinosaur, of course.

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@MatWhite That was hilarious. I disagree completely of course, as I love my Wii U and respect Nintendo, but that was definitely funny.

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@MatWhite Hilarious wrong but hilarious no the less

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@MatWhite Zing!

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@MatWhite LOL

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So how did this guy get his job. I want to be paid to sit around in an office all day telling people what companies will fail or win... sounds easy, I came to a similar conclusion without his "professional" help.

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@King_Wii

http://playeressence.com/microsoft-gametrailers-can-not-be-trusted-michael-pachter-and-geoff-keighley-exposed-by-the-leveledheadgamer/

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@GSJones1994 Levelheaded gamer is a Nintendo fanboy, of course he hates Pachter.

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@AyatollaofRnR Ah, the stupidity continues. Do you label anyone who like Nintendo as "fanboys"?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmp4vwI6FNE&feature=youtu.be

My thoughts on this.

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That guy has to be drunk


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Knowing Pachter, he'll probably be wrong again. The guy is always predicting gloom and doom for Nintendo and hardly ever gets it right. Nintendo might end up second place. Why the hell would the average gamer choose the XB1 over the Wii U given the horrible track record of the former? Nintendo has been putting out nothing but fan service lately, so I hardly see any reason for a "distant third." People buy Nintendo consoles because they want to play the first-party games. Everything else is a bonus.

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@ziqi92 That's the case, some hardcore gamers will shift from microsoft to sony, putting them on top, then Nintendo will take away the second place... I see no reason to own a XONE if I have a PS4, but if I had one, I'd still have tons of reasons to own a Wii U.

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@ziqi92 Why the hell would the average gamer choose the XB1 over the Wii U given the horrible track record of the former?

1. Graphical power

2. Most people will at least understand that the X1 is an upgrade whereas apparently there are people that don't know there's much of a difference between the Wii and Wii U.

3. Despite M$ horrible track record people are fickle, have short memories, and only care about what will make them happy immediately with little thought for the long term.

4. Online. People expect a better online experience from M$.

5. Perception of Nintendo consoles as a toy with kiddie games and have a M$ consoles makes them cool or macho because the teen crowd doesn't want anyone to think they are kiddos.

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@Rayzakk @ziqi92 In terms of graphical power what is a xbone to a ps4 and a ps4 to a pc ... not a damn thing

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@dummpymonkey123 @Rayzakk @ziqi92 You mentioned gimmick not I. You are still relying on the "well it'll be a repeat of the last gen" with no reasoning behind it other than "what has happened before will happen again" as if Battlestar Galactica was reality. Your reference to Nintendo as the Supreme Console is strange as you've already declared Nintendo the winner without reason and I do mean a sense of reason.

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@Rayzakk @dummpymonkey123 @ziqi92 No what we are trying to do is explain to you the Wii success was not a gimmick and Microscam followed suit with what they did last generation so its only befitting that Nintendo would remain supreme console

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@dummpymonkey123 @Rayzakk @ziqi92 Who said they hadn't made money? The original discussion was about position as 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. I personally believe M$ will be more successful than Nintendo for the reasons I stated, but that doesn't mean Nintendo will collapse or anything like everyone keeps trying to prove by some unsubstantiated attack upon Nintendo by my comments.

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@Rayzakk @dummpymonkey123 @ziqi92 The majority will go hmm Ps4 or Xbox one ... well they're the same but I like God of war or I like Halo so Ill pick (such an such) then they'll go Wii u is it an add on .... Once Nintendo games drop O the Wii u its a no brainer a home console necessity

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@Rayzakk @dummpymonkey123 @ziqi92 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-04-24-nintendo-makes-surprise-profit-despite-lower-than-expected-wii-u-sales

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@dummpymonkey123 @Rayzakk @ziqi92 But when talking in comparison how will the majority see it? Will what Wii U has to offer in comparison to X1?

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@Rayzakk @ziqi92 well yeah, you can't bust out at the middle school play yard, stating that Kirby's Dream Course is your favorite game. Unless you want to provoke a massive laugh. However, by not playing it because of that, you'd be missing out, and that is - still - a shame.

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@Rayzakk @thijs-x @ziqi92 Imagine the average kid buffling about his new X1 in front of the rest of PS4 owners XD

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@steve4123456789 @thijs-x @Rayzakk @ziqi92 Tough call, but I'll give it a try

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@thijs-x @Rayzakk @ziqi92 Show him how to have some balls, and what peer pressure leads to.

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@Rayzakk @thijs-x @ziqi92 of course. I was talking to my son the other day, and he wants DLC's for BLOPS2. Sure, fine with me. However, I asked him "why don't you try Journey for a change?" Right, his friends don't like it. Peer pressure, people.

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@thijs-x @Rayzakk @ziqi92 And are there kids that will request the X1 for Christmas instead because they don't want to be laughed at. Could be.

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@Rayzakk @ziqi92 Can we put the whole "Nintendo is for kids" thing to rest please?

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@Rayzakk @GSJones1994 @ziqi92 I can't see having myself fun with my family playing , I.E. halo.

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@GSJones1994 @Rayzakk @ziqi92 Did I say they were for kids? Has the perception gone away for everyone? There are still those that will perceive it that way, just as you want to perceive my pointing it out as an attack. The fact that you get defensive over it shows there are people still aware of it whether they completely believe it or not.

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@ziqi92 check this out while you're at it.

http://playeressence.com/microsoft-gametrailers-can-not-be-trusted-michael-pachter-and-geoff-keighley-exposed-by-the-leveledheadgamer/

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