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Deadpool And Wolverine Review - Status Quo

  • First Released Jul 26, 2024
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Deadpool was supposed to shake up the MCU, but instead he just became it.

As Deadpool jokes several different times over the course of Deadpool & Wolverine, the Marvel Cinematic Universe is experiencing "a bit of a low point" since the massive success of Avengers: Endgame. Fortunately, Deadpool (Ryan Reynolds) is here to shake things up by joining the MCU and making things weird, right? Maybe not, because Deadpool & Wolverine is just an R-rated version of a bog-standard modern Marvel flick: It's pretty funny, the story centers around the same CGI macguffin stuff as always, the third act is utterly baffling and feels like a bunch of stuff was cut, and there are ultimately no meaningful plot connections to the MCU. Standard stuff for the last five years of this franchise, and a major disappointment for the only MCU movie on the 2024 calendar.

Not that Deadpool & Wolverine is awful. It's got several great bloody action sequences, including an opening bloodbath set to NSync's "Bye Bye Bye," and when it's funny, it's really funny. But, just like with Deadpool 2, Deadpool & Wolverine is strangely full of earnestly emotional scenes that don't track at all next to all the silly, fourth-wall-breaking wisecracks, and now we get the added bonus of an overly complicated MCU story that requires far too much explanation despite actually being razor-thin.

Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds in Deadpool and Wolverine
Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds in Deadpool and Wolverine

The setup for Deadpool & Wolverine is basically Deadpool's version of the Loki series. He's pulled out of his reality by the Time Variance Authority--folks from outside of time who keep the timelines straight--and brought to Paradox (Matthew MacFadyen). Paradox tells Deadpool that his home universe is dying because it lost its "anchor being," Wolverine--this is meta humor about Logan being by far the most popular of the X-Men, how the franchise didn't work without Hugh Jackman, and the MCU subsuming Fox's Marvel franchises after the merger with Disney. Paradox offers to let Deadpool join the Avengers if he'll help accelerate the destruction of his home universe. There's never any discussion about what Paradox actually wanted him to do, though, as Deadpool rejects the offer and takes his own path by hopping across the timelines to find a new Wolverine, and then the two of them end up stuck at the end of time for most of the movie.

That setting, called the Void, was introduced during Loki Season 1 (Deadpool actually cites the specific episode that it first appeared in, hilariously), and it's basically limbo--it's where people go when the TVA folks poke them with their time sticks. When Loki went there, he met tons of other Lokis. But Deadpool and Wolverine just meet a lot of the D-tier mutant baddies from the X-Men movies, like Toad, and a large number of variant Deadpools--and also Professor X's impossibly powerful evil twin sister, Cassandra Nova (Emma Corrin), who was supposed to have died during childbirth. She's actually super cool, particularly when she puts her fingers inside people's heads (it'll make more sense when you see it).

It's all meaningless, though. Deadpool & Wolverine's story doesn't work very well, which is not itself necessarily a problem, since this is supposed to be a comedy film and the plot naturally comes second to that. Except it doesn't. This is an MCU movie through and through, and that means there's an excessive amount of time spent explaining stuff to set up a third act where that stuff doesn't actually matter much.

Emma Corrin in Deadpool and Wolverine
Emma Corrin in Deadpool and Wolverine

Fortunately, it does frequently work from scene to scene--basically any time Deadpool & Wolverine switches to its needle-drop action-sequence mode, which is a pretty decent chunk of the movie, it works great. The "Bye Bye Bye" sequence starts the movie off perfectly on a high note, and it's never long before we get another, similar scene--my favorite is probably when Deadpool and Wolverine tear each other apart in an old Honda Odyssey.

But outside of those scenes, which are glossy and look good, the production is pretty much Marvel-standard assembly-line stuff. Everything by the book, standard camera angles, standard editing pace, standard CGI environments. But that's what you get when you hire a filmmaker like Shawn Levy, who is exceptionally talented at delivering movies that earn a 6/10 audience rating from IMDb users with stuff like Cheaper by the Dozen, Date Night, and Night at the Museum. Levy has never been a filmmaker who elevates his material, and that hasn't changed with Deadpool & Wolverine.

The copious cameos help a little bit with some of these parts--I won't spoil them, but the highlight is an early Fox/Marvel movie character who meets a particularly heinous end at Cassandra's hands. But the cameos are quickly overshadowed by Cassandra, who is essentially the R-rated version of Evil Wanda in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Corrin is a creepy blast in the role, even though the character's storyline doesn't track at all in the third act.

Unfortunately, these cameos don't really add up to much. There are lots of random characters from Fox Marvel movies, but not many who matter to either of the title characters. And they contribute to Deadpool & Wolverine's ultimate downfall: its complete inability to wrangle its tone. This film constantly hops between Deadpool making stupid jokes and Wolverine very sincerely pondering every mistake he's ever made in his life, and it's hard to deal with--by the end of the movie, that tonal whiplash had rendered me numb to just about any feelings at all.

The punchline to all this is that we didn't really go anywhere. Deadpool & Wolverine doesn't change the MCU or affect any other ongoing stories, and the MCU's actual presence in the film is minimal. This is the MCU in a nutshell these days: giving off the impression that things are happening, without actually doing anything. Sure, some of the jokes were very funny, and some of the action was very good, but Deadpool & Wolverine is the worst Deadpool movie.

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The Good

  • When it's fun and funny, it's really fun and funny
  • Emma Corrin's villain is fun and creepy
  • One particularly great cameo

The Bad

  • Most of the cameos fall flat and serve no purpose
  • The plot is unnecessarily complicated for where it ends up

About the Author

Phil Owen is a freelance writer. Disney provided a screening of the film for the purpose of this review.
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This same reviewer gave The Acolyte an 8/10.

Just something to keep in mind.

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@IcyBlaze_XZ: So... if a reviewer that gave 3/10 to The Acolyte says the same thing we need to take as an absolute certainty?

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@blindbsnake: No, but you could take it as them not blowing smoke.

Good reviewers consistently hit close to the mark.

Bad reviewers, like this one appears to be, seem to almost intentionally miss the mark, especially when there are political reasons to review something in a particular way.

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@Akriel_Boulve: Most reviews are personal opinions and little more than that. A bad story may be easy to review, but a good story may have a ton of nuances that hit the viewer on a very different levels.

"especially when there are political reasons"

Oh damn... this again... you guys are crazy with these conspiracy theories. Its just a simple movie, what political reasons are you talking about?

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@blindbsnake: It's not a conspiracy theory. You've heard of Oscar Bait, right? It's well known that if your movie has the right politics, then you get higher ratings by critics and even terrible movies can come away with Oscars if they tickle the fancy of some Hollywood elites.

Meanwhile movies that are actually loved by the masses that don't pander to some social issue of the day get panned by critics.

The only way this is a conspiracy is if you aren't paying attention.

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@Akriel_Boulve: "Meanwhile movies that are actually loved by the masses that don't pander to some social issue of the day get panned by critics."

Like the Transformers movies?

There is a difference between Oscar movies and "summer" movies. And you can apply this logic to any movie or genre you like.

The idea of "politics" in movies is just meh... Obviously, any movie based on reality will have some kind of sub political ideology. Its part of human values and ideas.

Oppenheimer, Everything Everywhere All at Once, Parasite, Nomadland, Green book, The shape of water, all great movies, many a satire about real life. Politics? I don't see it...

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@Akriel_Boulve: July 26, 2024 - A lot of people only pay attention when they are directly impacted by something political or social. Hollywood depends on people not being well informed, and also rely on those that agree with their agendas. Part of "gaslighting", is to claim that one is not doing, exactly what they are doing. In my opinion, most mainstream entertainment publications and "review" websites are compromised, and beholden to the entertainment industry. Let's face it, that's how they make their money. Fortunately, there is a growing number of independent reviewers online that give honest reviews. Some of them are biased, but they don't pretend not to be. Stay well.😊

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@s9fx55fe77lam: "Fortunately, there is a growing number of independent reviewers online that give honest reviews."

I have a feeling they are more political than big bad Hollywood...

Also... if they get morons to follow them blindly... a cherry on the top of the cake.... This is the era about reviewers showing tantrums and getting offended by simple stories... because that brings a very specific kind of followers... very very specific....

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@blindbsnake: I don’t see a reviewer throwing a tantrum. I see a bunch of little entitled babies who didn’t get the review they wanted throwing tantrums.

ITS A COMIC BOOK MOVIE! Isn’t it time to grow up?

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@Baconstrip78: "I don’t see a reviewer throwing a tantrum."

Really? I see a ton of them in tantrum moments... but it is obviously just an act...

Last time I saw this was in the Acolyte...

My favourite moments are when they reach the "the death of Star Wars", "the death of morality","the wokeness is destroying my childhood"... and on and on...

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@blindbsnake: July 26, 2024 - Hi. I think that you will note that I addressed my comments to Akriel_Boulve, and not to you. You have stated your opinions which I obviously don't agree with. Calling people morons because they don't adhere to your particular vision of how reviewers critique films and TV series. Is in my opinion very being very dogmatic. You will also note, that I specifically said that the independent reviewers may be biased in their reviews, but they are known for their particular biases and don't pretend to be unbiased like some of the shill mainstream media reviewers. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, to select the reviewers you prefer. Others of us will do the same. It's like a religion, you chose what you want to believe and let others worship as they please. Thank you for keeping your comments civil.

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@s9fx55fe77lam: "Calling people morons because they don't adhere to your particular vision"

Sorry... my mistake... I was not trying to say they were morons, I was saying that morons is those youtubers target... Bad English sorry...

"I addressed my comments to Akriel_Boulve, and not to you..."

Fair enough... but... you done that in a public comment so... deal with it...

"You are certainly entitled to your opinion, to select the reviewers you prefer. Others of us will do the same."

Exactly... Nothing to add about this...

"Thank you for keeping your comments civil."

Always... Thank you...

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@blindbsnake: July 26, 2024 - Thank you for your civil comments and replies. While this is an open forum, I intentionally addressed a particular person and not the forum at large. You are of course entitled to address any comments that you care to, to whomever. I chose not to message you, or include you in my comments, because as I said. You have made your feelings very clear, and I have no desire to interact with you. However, once again, you have been most civil, and that is very much appreciated. Should I make any general statements in the future. I look forward to any thoughts you may have that counter my own. Sadly, there are very few people willing to enter into serious and polite conversations stating their particular views. Most comments are posted as.. "YOU'RE WRONG!".. "cause you know.. I say so."🤣 Stay well.👍😊

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@s9fx55fe77lam: Agree...We are just here debating, nothing more. No need for hostility or any other negative feeling. That being said, and having your words in consideration "I have no desire to interact with you", I will obviously respected your desire.

I may reply in the future because I reply thoughts and ideas, not direct individuals. But all you need to do is say "I dont want to talk with you" and I will go my way.

Thanks for the respectful cross argumentation. Stay well.

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@blindbsnake: July 26, 2024 - As you say. I wish you fair winds and calm seas in your travels and in life in general. 😊 The exchange of ideas and opinions have always been paramount in human relations. One can only hope that we, as a race can return to those days of compassion, reason, and understanding. Most sincerely, lam.😊

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@blindbsnake: When you're trying to disprove the subjective opinion of a movie you haven't seen, conspiracy theories are all you've got.

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@mogan: Not really, no. Oscar bait is a real demonstrable thing, not a conspiracy theory.

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@IcyBlaze_XZ: yep, that's a fair point. 8 outta 10? Dear god.

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Trailer was obvious this is a big flop.

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@silentmind:

‘Deadpool & Wolverine’ Obliterates R-Rated Record With $205 Million Opening Weekend, Eighth-Biggest in Box Office History

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Important to remember they decided to film this while the strike was still ongoing and couldn't change or revise anything.

Also important, Disney/Marvel has been ass for far longer than you're willing to admit, so yea, that too.

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@doubtless1: strike of what? effect specialists? writers? CG devs?

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Like everything coming from Disney now I might or might not watch it if I ever get bored enough. Nothing from Marvel or Star Wars is anything I feel any need to see anymore. It's the same thing that's happened to anything Tolkien or Game of Thrones inspired. Just too much mediocre content for the sake of content.

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Kevin Feige and other producers , please take a break from superhero movies, both DC and MCU. You all are milking and making bad movies which no one enjoys anymore like Call of Duty , Assassins Creed. Give a long gap as audience will miss and you will also come up with great ideas in superhero movie making as everyone was spellbound by Spiderman and The Avengers trilogy. To be honest, audience enjoys movies like Twisters as it happened after a long gap of 28 years, they felt nostalgic and new ones saw something new. Take this strategy .

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@indy_2024: Quantity over quality is what matters to big name corporation. Personally, the last MCU I saw was the final Avengers and nothing since and Star Wars was the second from last film and bits and pieces of Obi Wan. I think a sufficient window of passing time in between franchise films affords an overall better film and reception most of the time.

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@Solaryellow: Quantity over quality only works if you maintain a minimum level of quality with no competition. The studios have been riding that razor's edge for a long time now and they're slipping into the abyss. Seriously, who would have thought that Disney of all places could end up circling the drain? They got there by foregoing the quality for far too long and now people are looking to alternatives that are far superior in quality AND quantity (see booming anime and manga industry)

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@Akriel_Boulve: July 24, 2024 I totally agree with you. I find the various anime TV series offered on Netflix to be a lot more creative, and interesting than most of the "live action" productions on offer from any of the streamers. Anime for the most part has been able to stay out of the political/social conflict going on. The plots are interesting, the voice acting is generally great, and the animation is first class. I just finished the three seasons of "Ultraman", and I'm going to watch the most recent release of "Overlord". If it weren't for series like those, I may have ended my 20+ year subscription with Netflix.

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@s9fx55fe77lam: Ditch Netflix and get HiDive or Crunchyroll. Better selection of anime, though the latter heavily censors and is owned by Sony now and have gone so far as to disable comments and written reviews so they're falling out of favor with me real fast.

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@Akriel_Boulve: July 26, 2024 - Hi. It would appear that you and I are of like minds generally speaking. I appreciate your suggestion, and I am aware of HiDive and Crunchyroll. I haven't reached a point where I would find it necessary to subscribe to them. I was going to ditch Netflix after being a subscriber since 2000. However, they do manage to keep me paying monthly what I would have to pay going to a movie theater just once. Aside from decent anime series, they do come up with a TV series and/or film that makes it worthwhile to continue to subscribe.. for now at least😉Stay well and in touch.😊

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4 is pretty brutal, but the reasons sound honest. My biggest problem with the MCU post Endgame is that nothing seems to matter in the multiverse. Are we still rooting for 616 or some other set of variants? What "world" are our heroes trying to save?

I don't think Disney can do it, but maybe it's time to start creating good movies / good stories that aren't tied to the MCU. Like many, I was invested through Endgame. The later Infinity Saga films like Ragnarok and Black Panther were actually good though.

Now, it's hard to care about the Multiverse Saga characters when there doesn't seem to be a main threat. Love a character, hate a character, kill a character ... there's another variant nearby to take their place and either retcon something or just start over.

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@eyeball2452: This is Deadpool, it's not MCU. Nothing in DP serves a higher purpose in universe. It's just there to be entertaining.

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Click bait review don't even bother. Movie is sitting at 79% on rottentomatoes with 129 reviews. This is the same "writer" that gave The acolyte an 8, he even scored Madame Web higher than this lol. C'mon Gamespot!

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@Chupert: Phil is writing a lot of absurdities lately.

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@Chupert: Yeah I think that speaks for itself. Reviews are opinions, but this opinion is garbage.

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The consensus from other major sources and from social media seem to go against the reviewer. Brave or foolish? Only time will tell.

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@gaiden81: IGN was mixed and Vox (TheVerge and Polygon) panned it too. I'd agree that 4/10 is pretty brutal though.

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I'm assuming this is a Days Gone 4 and it's actually an 8.5

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@fbplayer1086: I think Days Gone was overrated, but definitely not a 4.

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@Akriel_Boulve: overrated...? by whom?

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@santinegrete: By gamespot user ratings.

I don't think the game deserves an 8.5, but also not quite a 5. The story was incredibly weak, the characters were bland and one dimensional, and so on.

The gameplay was very repetitive, but it had it's moments, mostly around the hordes which were quite exhilarating to take out, but that's about it. I'd honestly rate it closer to a 6.5 personally.

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Sorry reviewer. Maybe it didn't live up to your expectations, but in no world is this movie a 4. I don't even have to see it to know that. Not sure who taught you how to write reviews, but listing more goods than bads, then giving it a 4 doesn't make sense.

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So they took something that wasn't broke and tried to fix it under the Marvel-Disney/MCU umbrella?

Sounds about right.

I'll still see it because I never really take this movies serious enough to let it get to me, but it's a shame the film ended up going this way. Especially with Hugh Jackman in it, dude really embodies Wolverine and he all but came out of retirement for this (sort of lol).

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@mrbojangles25: it really didn't go the way you and this frankly absurd review think it did. Go check literally any other review or even comment lol you'll see how rough this article is

Or honestly just go see the movie. It was absolute gold - you can tell Ryan Reynolds still got to just do whatever he wanted. It's a *very* rare Disney W

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I already knew. When they announced Deadpool and wolverine I was very excited for it. Until it was under marvels umbrella and not fox anymore. You could tell by the trailers that it's a completely different Deadpool than the first 2 in a marvel way not in a fox universe way. I'm going to say the same with daredevil reboot it won't be as good as Netflix universe daredevil especially when I seen him in she hulk I was like when did daredevil get very super acrobatic and cheesy with cgi. I'll still see both of them don't get me wrong. But if thier were things perfect before better bring the same team that did them before. Marvel after endgame just hasn't been the same and just seems like CW writes thier material. They need to go back to the drawing board.

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@nemesis: going off one review, especially from this site, is a bit naive

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@feral411: like I said I can tell just by the trailers, that's thiers something off with it. Doesn't look like the Deadpool 1 or 2. I put in the beginning I already knew. I don't need a review and even said I'll still see it. But I'm pretty decent at knowing what the movie will be like just in the trailer. I don't need a review on it. I can tell you it's not going to be the same Deadpool. The first Deadpool was done perfectly, I don't see this one matching that and even part 2. Just looks way different.

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@nemesis: Based on the trailers it looks great, hilarious even. No idea what you're trying to say here. Sounds like nothing would be good enough for you.

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@deathbychickens: that or your easy going. Like I said I'm still going to see it. Maybe I'll think it's better and get proved wrong but time will tell. How about when I see it I'll come back and give an honest opinion on it. Like it just doesn't look the same heck even wolverine is different is that a bad opinion. Sorry I like movies to be done right especially in a franchise. Like example the newest matrix they ruined.

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I called it before it was released; Any movie Wolverine appeared in has always been pretty dark and serious with only light touches of humour sprinkled in. The Deadpool franchise has always been about ramming in as many childish jokes as possible in between violence. The contrast between the 2 characters just doesn't work. Reynolds did exactly the same when he appeared in Blade 3 where he took a dark, gritty franchise (that admittedly peaked in the 1st movie) and brought it to an abysmal level of stupidity with too much of a focus on trying to get some laughs.

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@just_visiting: tell me you haven't seen the movie without telling me you haven't seen the movie

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Every movie in the marvel universe doesn't have to push some greater story forward. It's ok to be its own story.

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@Chutebox: Thank you! I feel like they're trying too hard.

It's almost identical to the video game industry: all AAA publishers want to create this huge game and it has to be part of a larger franchise and there's all this talk about "being true to the legacy" and I just want to yell at them "HOLY CRAP GUYS! It's just a game. Step 1: make game Step 2: make it quality Step 3: have some fun Step 4: if it's good, people will buy it.

I feel like they rely too much on marketing and hype and unimportant stuff but oh well it makes them billions WTF do I know glory to capitalism at any cost rah rah rah!

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@mrbojangles25: Franchises that Disney's bought are a lot like AAA game franchises. Think CoD, Madden or Warcraft. Just cash cows until they're not.

The problem is the thing that made the original games so much fun doesn't move the money needle enough for the large publishers.

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So far, the movie is earning praise by most critics, so I'll take this review with a grain of salt. DP2's plot mattered very little as well, so I'm not sure anyone seeing this actually cares about plot all that much and this review sounds more like a 6 than 4, as it says a bunch of stuff works well. I'm just there to have a good time watching Reynolds and Jackman do their thing. After the string of bland or bad stuff we've gotten from Marvel since Endgame, as long as this is fun, idc about much else.

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A 4 is exactly what it looked and sounded like. It sounded like a pointless cameo-fest with jokes that tried too hard.

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