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#1 scoobypat
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[QUOTE="bulletproofcow"]

Chris Benoit is the second lightest WWE World Heavyweight Champion (behind Rey Mysterio), at a billed weight of 234 pounds (100 kg.)

Benoit's lost tooth is usually credited to training or an accident early on in his wrestling career. It actually resulted from an accident involving his pet Rottweiler. One day, Benoit was struck with the top of the Rottweiler's head beneath his chin, and his tooth "popped out".

Ha, I think I like the whole training story better.

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if the story was "he killed a rottweiler" then he'd be more badass

"Benoit then locked the rottweiler into three consecutive german suplexs and finished it off with a flying headbutt from the counter in his kitchen.
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Looking at the card there is no chance in hell, listen WWE charge nearly $40 for a PPV, that is ridiculously overpirced (that's price gouging right there because the procution of a PPV is easily covered with profit at a price of $20) Now even if I acknowledge inflation the amount the increase in prices for PPV's over the last decade is unheard of, considering too that the WWE puts on more PPV's now then ever before it's disgusting. I usually get 2-3 PPV's a year (and that's when I have a steady income) and that consists only of variations of the Big 4 (Summerslam, WM, Royal Rumble, & Survivor Series). Besides nowadays PPV's are a dime a dozen, they have no meaning. I remember when there were 11-12 PPV's a year, that's when even if the card sucked you got excited. PPV's meant something they actually had streaches where building feuds was possible, now it's up to 16 PPV's a year I think. The last non-Big 4 PPV I ever purchased had McMahon vs Austin in a steel cage, that's worth every cent.

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In my spare time I sometimes Wikipedia wreslters and learn more about them, good wreslters, bad wreslters, obsucre wrestlers, all the same. I find some really good info and occasionally some uncharacteristic things. So I thought a thread like game based on this would be fun. Basically you Wikipedia any wreslterand you try to find something about them that most of us don't know whtehr it relates to personal life or wreslting. To show you the potential of this I'll start first, and this one is a gem.

Booker T

"Prior to Booker's wrestling career, he was convicted of several armed robberies in 1987, including robbing the fast food restaurant Wendy'swhere he was employed while still wearing his uniform and name tag, and spent 19 months in jail.[2] "

LMAO, I can see it now

Cashier "Booker is that you?!"

Booker "Tell me you didn't just say that! Tell me you didn't just say that?!"

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[QUOTE="scoobypat"]Lesnar was far too young though, I said he would have been the savior of wreslting. Look at the man's accomplishment and reputation in a 3 year period, no one else in the business has accomplished so much in that little time, why even Kurt Angle had to fiddle around in the mid-card for at least a year and a half. The_Dude14

No other wrestler has been as forcefully shoved down our throats before or since Lesnar.  You had two choices when it came to Lesnar, accept it or stop watching and a lot of people seemed to choose the latter. 

Lesnar had he been given time to blossum would have been the new face of the company the way Hogan was, the way Hart was, the way Austin was, the way the Rock, etc. Each of these men in their respective times moved the company forawrd into mainstream status in some form, these names (maybe with the exception of Hart) are recognizable to non-fans thusly prooving wreslting to some extent had made a mainstream impact even further. To be called the "Savior of wrestling" it imply's the wreslter can reutnr the comapny and business to the once glorious apex it was at, that clearly being the Hogan reign when wrestling was widely popular with everyone. Each of the wreslters I listed above did somewhat do that, like I said they made wreslting popular in their respective times. Yet we have not seen that face for quite sometime, ever since the dwindling of the Rock we as an industry have been aching for that face. Lesnar had it.scoobypat
  Maybe, anything is possible, but I don't see it.  I don't see Lesnar "having it" at all.  Hogan, Austin, and Rock all had a connection with the fans that Lesnar did not.  Hogan was an over-the-top superhero, Austin, an everyman who got to live the working man's dream and Rock appealed to us with a sharp wit, charisma and knew/knows how to entertain a crowd.  Lesnar was/is a meathead with, at best, average mic skills and showed me no potential to reach a crowd the same way the above did.

Now Lesnar's personal choices have no bearing on him as being full of potential to bring wreslting back to the forefront of mainstream television, and to some extent neither does his wreslting ability as some have called to question. Lesnar has more wreslting ability now then Hogan ever had, it simply doesn't matter in a star that is built right. (Personally though I feel Lesnar was a great technical wreslter, I'm just addressing concerns).scoobypat
 I never questioned Lesnar's talent or potential in the ring and I don't know too many people who have and I won't doubt that ability in the ring has very little bearing on who can draw, even though, I believe its becoming much more important.  His personal choices may have no bearing on his potential to bring wrestling back to the mainstream, it has everything to do with the impact and what he has accomplished and may accomplish in wrestling.  If he doesn't make the personal choice to try his hand at football, we aren't having this conversation, we'd know the answer.  If he doesn't make the personal choices to be a jackass that wants special treatment along with a ridiculous price tag, again, this conversation   If Brock Lesnar doesn't become a headcase, we'd be seeing that alternate future 

But again back to the potential never reached question, I feel now is a great time to revert back to how much Lesnar had accomplished and how mouch fan support and credibility he had earned in his short tenure. Now compare that to the first 3 years of the Rock, Austin, Hart, and even Hogan, he looks like a superstar compared to them. One more factor you must equate is the factor of unpredicatability, do you think if I told you that the Rock would be perhaps the second biggest draw in the history of the industry when he was Rocky Maiva you'd believe me? No you'd probably laugh and go back to chanting DIE ROCKY DIE. What about when the Ringmaster arrived? Terry Boulder? That's what I thought.scoobypat
And I go back to the point that no one before or after has been pushed, no shoved, with the absolute ferocity that Lesnar was given, with the possible exception of Goldberg, who had more fan support and has had more crossover appeal than Brock Lesnar while working within very similar time period. 

Plus, as a result of his relentless shoving and the fact that Lesnar, unlike Hogan, Austin, Rock, Hart, Foley, Angle and even Triple H was handed his success, while foregoing paying his dues and earning his stripes in the business, Lesnar becomes a headcase, who grows bored of wrestling and tries his hand at football, and who won't come back to the company that made him because he wants special treatment, even after he left the company high and dry and put no one over in his time.

You call him the "saviour of wrestling," I see him being closer to Kevin Nash than I do to Hulk Hogan.

Potential and fulfilling it are to vastly different things, if I as a booker (or any competent one) could be given the shell of Lesnar prior to any WWE run he would be a star, he just had it, how he was pushed changed what he had though. I will aknowledge as you said he was forcefully poushed, but given time to truely bloom without the pressure he would have reached that pinacle with no doubt in my mind, it's how Lesnar was handled that changed him, not how he was.
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Lesnar was the "saviour of wrestling?"  Then why were the ratings, house show attendance, and buyrates all on a downturn during his run? 

If he were the saviour, wouldn't he have lead wrestling back to the promised land of mainstream acceptance, been a crossover star into other mediums and, at least, draw ratings above the 4 mark?  However, he did none of those and never showed the potential to do any of those.

Was Lesnar a big deal?  No doubt.  When he quit, did it hurt Smackdown?  No, it didn't just hurt Smackdown, alongside Angle taking time off for his neck, it crippled it.  Lesnar was their biggest player and strongest heel, but the "saviour of wrestling?"  Lesnar was a good-great big man, power move wrestler, with decent mic skills and charisma, but very little mainstream appeal.  He didn't have enough appeal to be brought in as a ticket selling attraction for the Vikings, a team that really had nothing to lose by keeping him around.  Would he be accepted as a credible contender from day 1, if he came back?  Yeah, I have very little doubt.  However, so would Batista.  Does that make either the "saviour of wrestling?"  Hell no.  Lesnar was good, I'll never deny that, but was he or would he ever be, if he hadn't quit, on the same level as Hogan, Austin or Rock.  I'd be a little more than shocked.  Lesnar'd be lucky to be held in the same regard as Goldberg, as far as "wrestling saviours," go.  He hangs around, I don't see wrestling being much, if any, better than it is right now.

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Lesnar was far too young though, I said he would have been the savior of wreslting. Look at the man's accomplishment and reputation in a 3 year period, no one else in the business has accomplished so much in that little time, why even Kurt Angle had to fiddle around in the mid-card for at least a year and a half.

Lesnar had he been given time to blossum would have been the new face of the company the way Hogan was, the way Hart was, the way Austin was, the way the Rock, etc. Each of these men in their respective times moved the company forawrd into mainstream status in some form, these names (maybe with the exception of Hart) are recognizable to non-fans thusly prooving wreslting to some extent had made a mainstream impact even further. To be called the "Savior of wrestling" it imply's the wreslter can reutnr the comapny and business to the once glorious apex it was at, that clearly being the Hogan reign when wrestling was widely popular with everyone. Each of the wreslters I listed above did somewhat do that, like I said they made wreslting popular in their respective times. Yet we have not seen that face for quite sometime, ever since the dwindling of the Rock we as an industry have been aching for that face. Lesnar had it.

Now Lesnar's personal choices have no bearing on him as being full of potential to bring wreslting back to the forefront of mainstream television, and to some extent neither does his wreslting ability as some have called to question. Lesnar has more wreslting ability now then Hogan ever had, it simply doesn't matter in a star that is built right. (Personally though I feel Lesnar was a great technical wreslter, I'm just addressing concerns).

But again back to the potential never reached question, I feel now is a great time to revert back to how much Lesnar had accomplished and how mouch fan support and credibility he had earned in his short tenure. Now compare that to the first 3 years of the Rock, Austin, Hart, and even Hogan, he looks like a superstar compared to them. One more factor you must equate is the factor of unpredicatability, do you think if I told you that the Rock would be perhaps the second biggest draw in the history of the industry when he was Rocky Maiva you'd believe me? No you'd probably laugh and go back to chanting DIE ROCKY DIE. What about when the Ringmaster arrived? Terry Boulder? That's what I thought.

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The curse began when the true "wrestling savior" of this decade left, Brock Lesnar. Smackdown was actually competetive with Raw when Lesnar was there. Hopefully with his new falling out in NJPW he will return. Screw what people say about CM Punk being the savior, Lesnar was the savior of wreslting but he left. Had Lesnar stayed who know's where Smackdown and the WWE as a whole would be, Lesnar had charisma, mic skills, the looks of the big man, the ability, the crediblity, the intmidation factor, etc. Want proof? If Lesnar came back today with no prior build up, and was placed in a heavy-weight title match, fans would accept him as a champion and probably be more interested in that match then the one that's been built for a month. Lesnar leaving started the downfall, the death of Eddie Guerrero crippled Smackdown, and now they are on life support.
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Wow... it's incredibly lucky they put the belt on Finlay. And no I didn't think this was about the wellness program. If he was going to get caught it would have been at the same time Masters and Mercury were caught.trick_man01
You do know they do more then just one test right? It's like a monthly thing.
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Who else was thinking the welness program had claimed another victim when they read the title?