DOOM: The Dark Ages Official Trailer 2

More Doom: The Dark Ages video. I'm still hyped for this game.

It looks like you will fight Cthulhu at the 2:42 on the video.

I know i'm in the minority here, but Doom is boring af, and this one doesn't look any different.

Game looks great. Really enjoyed Doom 2016 and Eternal. Am pretty hyped for this one.

Thank you Xbox.

Xbox make gaming world happy.

Sony be making people cry like emo babies.

What are you talking about? it's a game from an old arse franchise that should take been taken out the back and shot a long time ago. And thanking Xbox, really? it's also on PC & PS5. Thanking Xbox makes no sense.

Could be a pretty fun game. It's not Doom though.

I'm also very uninterested in the bullshit story they think we care about. It will most likely make replaying the game a chore.

I think this game will not sell very well, so I'll just wait for a sale if I decide to try it out.

lol :P

Every Doom game called not Doom since originals.

Its Doom evolved otherwise it would be stale same old.

yet another Day One AAA heading to Game Pass..

thanks Xbox.. 😎👍

#value

Thank you Phil! And the XboxStation cows thank you!

Looks cool. I'll wait for it to hit PS+

Can you name us games you actually like?

#xboxstation

#playstation is an Xbox

#sales and profits

I could but we'd be here all day, just like if I asked you all the games that you hate because they're "woke" lol.

how about the most recent game you enjoyed?..

and any games you're looking forward to in 2025~2026?..

Super duper hyped for DOOM: Dark Ages as the DOOM games is one of the best Christian games of all time! I'm there day one on Steam baby!!!

Still a little upset Mick Gordon won't be doing the soundtrack for Dark Ages. He will be missed for sure.

@Antwan3K: Most recent I enjoyed when it comes to current gen games was Space Marine 2, I was going to buy Avowed & South of Midnight but Phil/MS don't like giving its gamers options when it comes to buying games on disk when they sell a friggin console that has a disk drive.

I will most likely buy Expedition 33, and I was gonna buy Fable, but the way MS is going that won't be on disk either.

Do you think that Phil/MS have a legal obligation to put games on disk when their premium product has a disk drive?

yeah, i heard Space Marine 2 was really good.. still playing Avowed and South of Midnight; both are great.. and i'm looking forward to Expedition 33, will definitely give it a try via Game Pass..

no, i don't think there's a legal obligation to make a physical version of a game.. both Xbox and PlayStation sell hardware with and without disc-drives.. if it works out better for them business-wise to do a digital-only release, that's perfectly fine..

to be clear, the above is in reference to a "legal obligation"..

As someone who primarily buys digital PC games, obviously, and only buys Nintendo physical if possible, I do hope that physical discs don't go away completely. All-digital consoles paint you into a corner too much, and I, for one, still prefer gamers getting options to buy digital or physical. I get what Last_Lap is saying here. There's no excuse for MS to do both digital and physical at the same time, and doing digital first and releasing physical later on kills the hype and momentum for the consumer.

Physical media probably won't die whenever both PS6 & next-gen Xbox release, but I believe we will reach a time when we need another medium because discs are starting to get quite outdated and can't hold enough data anymore. I think what Last_Lap and others have to understand Physical discs in modern times are just a key to download and let you play the game, the game could still be revoked remotely, same as digital downloads. What you really need to actually own the game is to have the downloaded copy have no DRM, like what GoG does.

@davillain: if we were still talking about discs or carts that had 100% of the game on them and can be 100% played offline out-of-the-box, i would see the point.. that's true physical media.. that's true ownership..

BUT, in 2025, physical games aren't even "physical games" anymore.. these days with required downloads, patches, updates, and etc, those discs are nothing more than glorified digital keys..

as such, all this talk of "ownership" is pointless.. that ship has already sailed unfortunately.. so being super concerned about whether or not you get a physical copy of your digital key is just a waste of effort..

like it or not, over generations, formats change.. businesses are the driving force in that change and consumers ultimately decide what format wins.. for better or for worse, digital distribution has won out.. at this point, the true argument should be for better digital ownership policies..

Their are still physical releases that have a full playable game on them... most do in fact.

the point being made is that physical games are increasingly dependent on internet connections and digital downloads in order to function.. and at that point, what's the point of "owning" the plastic disc?..

Because at anytime your digital library can be taken away. For an example a friend of mine had his PSN account banned and every digital game linked to that account was inaccessible. But they can never take your physical copy.

If the game requires an online connection then I agree. In that case the physical disk is worthless. But if it is playable offline it is worth owning a physical copy. At least for me.

Hmm.🤔

@Antwan3K: Oh, believe me, I'm aware that physical ownership has left the docks since this gen has started. The issue is, most of the users here are still having a hard time accepting that digital gaming is being pushed more so.

See here's where we differ, when you make a console and put a disc drive in it, then you're committing to physical media throughout the life of that generation, which gives me confidence as the consumer to shell out extra to buy the console with the disc drive in it knowing all MS games will have physical copies, and if MS then start to make less & less physical games then they have broken their commitment, and thus should reimburse those who bought the Series X to the amount of the cost of the disc drive within the X.

Three words and a letter.

Imagine being promised Ghost of Yotei this year and instead all you get is an extraction shooter taking place in a dystopian nightmare.

Thank the lord for Jim Cryin' Ryan's live service bonanza.

that's a very specific case.. on the flip-side, if you damage or lose the disc, you no longer have access to the game.. but digitally, you can always redownload it.. pros and cons..

anyway, i don't want to totally derail this thread with a physical vs digital discussion.. but, ultimately, digital is winning that discussion with consumers.. and eventually, people who prefer physical may have to decide what's more important to them: the games or the format of the games..

well, it seems you have a fundamental misunderstanding of your purchase.. I bought a Series X with a disc-drive but was under no illusion that every single game released for that console will have a physical version..

digital-only games have existed for multiple generations at this point..

@Antwan3K: Such a bs answer and you know it, has there ever been a time where you don't defend MS?

MS made a console with a disc drive, therefore they instilled into the consumer that they would make their games on disc. Was there a written or oral disclaimer from MS or Phil that some of the games they make in the future of this gen that may only be digital only?

So, unless you can find that disclaimer then it is wholly on MS, I mean don't make me find interviews from the past 2yrs where Phil says they're fully committed to physical media.

EDIT: And HERE is an interview with IGN only 14 months ago stating what I said.

EDIT 2: Since Spencer has done that interview this is how it's gone down.

Games released on disc 2

Indiana Jones

Call of Duty Black Ops 6

And games released digital only 5

MSFS 2024

Age of Mythology Retold

Avowed

Hellblade 2

South of Midnight

And the 2 physical games are also on digital, so Phil is a friggin liar as the only format he is committed to is digital.

Now spin.

@last_lap: you bought a console with a disc-drive and expected every game to have a physical option when digital-only games have been in existence for generations..

there's nothing to spin.. that's a fundamental misunderstanding of your purchase and the current gaming industry..

as far as that article, legally, he's not wrong.. Xbox does indeed still support physical games and plans to continue to support physical games.. unless YOU can provide a quote from Microsoft that literally says "every single game available for the Xbox Series X will also have a physical copy available", you don't have a leg to stand on..

continue voting with your wallet but, at this point, the writing is on the wall.. i suggest you just enjoy the games you want to play instead of obsessing about what format the games are distributed on..

No room for commonsense here.

The truth of the matter is, it's not just MS pushing digital, but Sony and Nintendo are all jumping to digital, as physical is really becoming obsolete because data storage just isn't enough for optical disks.

I myself don't like seeing physical copies becoming obsolete in the near future, but it is what it is. Antwan3K isn't wrong here.

@davillain: yep, this is true, discs can only hold around 50gb I believe. This is one reason, the disc doesn't even contain the entire game, and you need to download 80% of it anyways. Regardless, I don't have a specific problem with disc games, I hope they continue since they keep prices down. Sad to say it but Xbox has really gone all digital this gen, and the big reason for this is likely gamepass.

@Antwan3K: When Phil says they will still be supporting physical media that means it's games. I don't need to find a qoute where Phil says every game, that would be a stupid argument to make, but you're trying to make it. When you say you're going to support physical media it's means you will continue to put your games on disk, it's as simple as that.

You are the worse Spencer/MS arse kisser that I've ever seen, it's sickening 🤮🤮🤮

@taint: You think you have common sense? Good one lol.

@davillain: I linked an article from Phil from a year ago lying his arse off and you guys go well digital is becoming the norm.

MS/Phil made a commitment to physical when they released the Series X and re-affirmed their commitment in the article I linked from last year, but Phil is a liar, it seems I'm the only one who is willing to call Phil on his constant lying ways.

@last_lap: From the way of things going for Xbox Series, I can see Phil has overpromise everything.

@davillain: C'mon dav call it the way it is, and that is Phil Spencer is a liar, plain & simple, let's not mince words here.

Xbox is indeed still supporting physical media.. that's a fact.. and that doesn't change the fact that digital-only games have existed for generations and publishers have the option to release digital-only games if they choose to do so; particularly as consumers are overwhelmingly choosing digital..

if you thought the Xbox Series X was going to have a physical copy of every single game released simply because it has a disc-drive, you're an idiot.. you literally just said "that would be a stupid argument to make" when that is EXACTLY the argument you're making..

you're whining about "broken promises" like a child when that particular promise was never made.. grow up..

Not very well their not. The Oblivion remake not having a physical copy and Indiana Jones only having 20GB on the disk is unacceptable. Especially since they are big budget single player games

"not very well" is subjective.. objectively speaking, particularly in legal terms, they are supporting physical media.. it was never stated that every single game available for the Xbox Series X will have a physical copy..

is Xbox pushing their digital ecosystem via Game Pass, Play Anywhere, and Xbox Cloud Gaming?.. yes.. Is Nintendo handling physical media on the Switch 2 "not very well"?.. yes.. did PlayStation just release a $700 PS5 Pro without a disc-drive?.. yes..

digital is taking over gaming across the board.. that's the reality.. whining about it and pretending you were "lied to" is childish..

And they just announced the Collectors Edition of Ghost of Yotei, with a digital code for the game.

Explain the logic that Nintendo isn't handling physical media " very well" on the Switch 2? The cartridges feature the entire game and only require you to go online for updates... They are actually handling it better then anyone else.

Of the big three Microsoft has handeled physical media the worst. That may not be a problem for you if you don't care but that's just the reality. Getting upset and crying about it when people call that out is also childish.

PSA: Doom 2016 is on gog now. And on sale for $4.

Almost All Physical Third-Party Nintendo Switch 2 Games in Japan Are Game-Key Cards — and It Looks Like It’s a Similar Situation in the West - IGN

buying a physical version of game (that costs $10 more than the digital version in certain regions) and requiring access to the internet to download the game is "unacceptable" according to your own logic concerning Indiana Jones only having 20GB on the disc..

arguably, Nintendo is handling physical media the worst with the Switch 2.. That may not be a problem for you since you have a fanboy agenda but that's the reality.. Getting upset and crying about it when people accept the reality that consumers have voted with their wallets, chose digital, and companies are responding to that vote is also childish..

Yea I'm not going to lie I didn't know that. That is absolutely unacceptable. I honestly would never notice because I will never buy a third party game on Switch but that is ridiculous. It appears Playstation handles it better then either MS or Nintendo.

And no. I don't have a fanboy agenda I just don't glaze Microsoft every chance I get like you 🤣. Although digital is the dominant way to purchase games. Physical media is still alive and well when it comes to games. And if it does die don't bitch and moan if a platform holder chooses to wipe your library whenever they please... because it's completely in their right to do so.

sure, PlayStation isn't pushing digital as hard as Xbox and who knows what Nintendo is thinking.. that said, Sony can take a more anti-physical stance at any given moment.. heck, they've already released a new console with an "optional" disk-drive; testing the waters for a discless PS6.. clearly, physical isn't a priority for any of these companies; including PlayStation.. the writing is on the wall..

all that said, I prefer digital games.. it's my personal preference.. I've preferred digital since the PS3 gen.. so your idea of that equating to "glazing Microsoft" is the very definition of having a fanboy agenda.. calm down.. this isn't a "Microsoft" or "Xbox" thing.. there's plenty of PS5 owners who prefer digital games as well.. Sony sells an all-digital PS5 and an all-digital PS5 Pro.. stop being a fanboy and just accept that this isn't an "Xbox" issue, it's an industry issue..

formats change.. floppy disks, cassette tapes, VCR tapes, cartridges, CDs, DVDs, HD-DVD, Blu-ray, thumb drives, digital downloads, streaming apps.. businesses introduce new options and consumers vote with their wallets.. digital has won the vote.. it is what it is.. get over it..