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#1 Papadrach
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I mean who doesnt love sitting in lobby with 12/12 people and it says look for more players to balance. Or the game starting in 9...9...9... 9... Or how about map loading.. synchronizing.... ok wtf its been 45 seconds. Oh no lost connection to hose. Oh wait now the game lobby closed. Gotta love looking at all the green bars and still find stuttering. Or laying down a Napalm strike and watching my fps go down to 20. Oh and dont get me started on the hitmarkers...

This game was poorly made. Who made this a bunch of people with a half year degree in software design or programming?

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#2 Xirmi
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The game has some good points. It's probably the most balanced CoD multiplayer on this gen of consoles and there are very few 'game-breaking' exploits.

It has some real problems though. Matchmaking is broken, just like you said. I keep getting transmission errors and frozen lobbies. I've encountered the frame-rate issue as well, always when Napalm shows up.

And finally there's the double combo of map and spawn system. The maps are extremely difficult to control without a team you're not used to playing with and the crazy spawn system often decides to throw me alone one on end of the map and spawn the enemy team there half a second later. I'm gonna give the game a rest till patches come out.

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#3 AJC3317
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the lag was powerful last night. when the game works right it's a blast, but when it takes about half a clip before ur bullets even start registering there's something very wrong
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#4 Papadrach
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Idk CoD2 seemed pretty flawless most of the time. Oh man how i miss the days of no stupid knife lunging and no killstreaks..

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#5 Loegi
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Boy am I glad i didn't buy Black Ops.

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#6 jdc6305
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I got rid of it because it was causeing my ps3 to freeze up and I don't want my blue ray to break. The game is garbage and broken. I went back to playing MW2 it's far superior.

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#7 anime_gamer007
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It's well done when it comes to balance. But there's an unreasonable amount of technical screws up with this game even more so on the PS3 side (apparently optics(red dot sight/reflex sight/etc) have more glare and are less visible on the PS3 than the 360). This is just another $60 beta, just like MW2.
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#8 mitu123
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There's a new patch coming this week.

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#9 Papadrach
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There's a new patch coming this week.

mitu123
Ya like that will fix anything. its been over a month and nothing has changed. Actually, things got worse ( mostly MM)
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#10 Sloan360
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And you could do better then them at making games?

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#11 Papadrach
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Is that my profession? No... is it theres? Ya

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#12 anime_gamer007
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

There's a new patch coming this week.

Papadrach

Ya like that will fix anything. its been over a month and nothing has changed. Actually, things got worse ( mostly MM)

Well here's the actual patch notes:

  • Gameplay Tuning:
  • • Limit the ability to re-roll supply drops using Hardline Pro to Care Packages only, no other killstreak drops.
  • • Added a negative influencer to all spawn points to decrease the chances of spawning near an enemy. This will further improve spawning protection on top of previous updates.
  • • Additional sound mix tuning for Ninja Pro users – increased ranges and volume of enemy footsteps, and removed player footstep sounds on concrete material types.
  • • Increased headshot multipliers for sniper rifles. Sniper rifles with suppressors equipped will now always be ensured one-shot kill headshots.
  • • Subtle increase in sniper rifle accuracy when scoping in.
  • • Added a render delay to the red diamond player indicators that appear when controlling the Gunship, Valkyrie Rocket and Chopper Gunner. When a player first spawns, this will not appear for a period of time.
  • • Additional minor reductions in knife lunge.

They seem pretty good to me, I'm not so sure about the red diamond player indicator being delaying for killstreaks. It's not like like those killstreaks need a nerf, if anything they need a buff because as it stands right, a Chopper Gunner can easily get blow to bits before the door is even open. There's other stuff like the party system and disconnects being fixed. You can look at everything here.

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#13 Sloan360
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Is that my profession? No... is it theres? Ya

Papadrach

It is there profession and they're good at it. Just because there are technical problems doesn't mean they did a bad job. Every call of duty titles has had problems and this one is no different. If you want to say they can't program then try doing it yourself.

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I have been just having problems with firends being able to accept my invite to play zombies....Its always says game no longer available or something else....????Besides that I thought the story was weak.....How can you feel like you are a soldier in war when you always know they are flash backs and you are safley being strapped in a chair....

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[QUOTE="Papadrach"]

Is that my profession? No... is it theres? Ya

Sloan360

It is there profession and they're good at it. Just because there are technical problems doesn't mean they did a bad job. Every call of duty titles has had problems and this one is no different. If you want to say they can't program then try doing it yourself.

It isn't the fact that they have problems in the game, it's what those problems are. Lag, hit detection, framerate, match making and disconnects have never been a problem in the CoD series especially framerate. This issues might have came up here and there in the previous CoDs but it was not nearly as prevalent as in Black Ops. Not that I'm saying Treyarch had any decision making in this(it was likely Activision) but a public beta would have sorted out almost all these issues.
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#17 ImprovedMind
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This will probably get moderated, but I really don't care because I am speaking from experience. I was having the exact same problems that you are experiencing on my PS3. So, I sold the game to a friend and bought it for my 360 where the problems instantly went away. Thinking the servers were fixed or a patch had been released I repurchased a PS3 version to play with some friends and I kept running into the exact same problems again and again. Stay away from the PS3 version if possible.

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Going between this and MW2 it's ridiculous how much nonsense we have to put up with. MW2 ran so well with smooth framrate and no lag at all yet BO struggles like it is the one that was released earlier.
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#19 Sloan360
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[QUOTE="Sloan360"]

[QUOTE="Papadrach"]

Is that my profession? No... is it theres? Ya

anime_gamer007

It is there profession and they're good at it. Just because there are technical problems doesn't mean they did a bad job. Every call of duty titles has had problems and this one is no different. If you want to say they can't program then try doing it yourself.

It isn't the fact that they have problems in the game, it's what those problems are. Lag, hit detection, framerate, match making and disconnects have never been a problem in the CoD series especially framerate. This issues might have came up here and there in the previous CoDs but it was not nearly as prevalent as in Black Ops. Not that I'm saying Treyarch had any decision making in this(it was likely Activision) but a public beta would have sorted out almost all these issues.

Lag has always been around and until dedicated servers aren't just for PC and the host determines the connection we can't really do anything about it. Hit detection, while bad in this game, has again, always been a problem in COD. People complained for months about the match making in MW2 and they fixed it, so I expect the same of Treyarch. The only two glaring problems in this one that aren't in others are framerate and disconnect. A public beta would have helped get these problems quicker, but like you said it probably wasn't their call.

The game is good but it just needs to work out the kinks.

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#20 ImprovedMind
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Going between this and MW2 it's ridiculous how much nonsense we have to put up with. MW2 ran so well with smooth framrate and no lag at all yet BO struggles like it is the one that was released earlier.CyberAltair5
Again, here comes the mod train but that too is only an issue on the PS3. I feel that we PS3 owners got the short of end the stick when it came to Black Ops. The game plays so much better on the 360.
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[QUOTE="CyberAltair5"]Going between this and MW2 it's ridiculous how much nonsense we have to put up with. MW2 ran so well with smooth framrate and no lag at all yet BO struggles like it is the one that was released earlier.ImprovedMind
Again, here comes the mod train but that too is only an issue on the PS3. I feel that we PS3 owners got the short of end the stick when it came to Black Ops. The game plays so much better on the 360.

Yeah everyone agrees that the 360 version is obviously the superior one and that's such a shame. Why would you get moderated for stating the obvious?
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#22 Papadrach
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Not to mention how bad the graphics are. CoD4 on pc is miles better looking than BO on consoles. They really need to take more time and consideration into the making of these games...

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#23 Venom_Raptor
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Single player if where the game shines, just like all games. MW2 was a mess after a while of playing, so it was no doubt Black Ops would succumb to the same issues that plagued MW2.

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#24 rawrB
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[QUOTE="Sloan360"]

[QUOTE="Papadrach"]

Is that my profession? No... is it theres? Ya

anime_gamer007

It is there profession and they're good at it. Just because there are technical problems doesn't mean they did a bad job. Every call of duty titles has had problems and this one is no different. If you want to say they can't program then try doing it yourself.

It isn't the fact that they have problems in the game, it's what those problems are. Lag, hit detection, framerate, match making and disconnects have never been a problem in the CoD series especially framerate. This issues might have came up here and there in the previous CoDs but it was not nearly as prevalent as in Black Ops. Not that I'm saying Treyarch had any decision making in this(it was likely Activision) but a public beta would have sorted out almost all these issues.



hmm when has there ever been game made were it was perfect on release ... you talk like its a joke and disgrace because its not perfect fact is the lag for some reason has hit hard last few days its not been as bad when it first came out. i complaned about this today myself but man up itl most likely be fixed when the update is out and when it is im sure ill love it just as much as it is a very good game when it all comes togeter its just havin a bad few days

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#25 CyberAltair5
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As far as the graphics go I don't think they were bad at all but I guess it's because my standards as\ren't high or I'm just easy to please.
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#26 Xirmi
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Well, the patch might help the spawning a bit. It's the thing that's annoying me about this game. Map control is just nonexistent at the moment.

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#27 Ninja_Zombie83
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People will always find something to cry about. When its all said and done, no one is twisting your arm to play the game. Its obvious they have learned from mistakes and have improved the game when compared to their predecessors but you can't make everyone happy. If you don't like it, wipe the tears from your eyes and go play something else.
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#28 Papadrach
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As far as the graphics go I don't think they were bad at all but I guess it's because my standards as\ren't high or I'm just easy to please.CyberAltair5
You've prolly just never really seen what a good game can look like.
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#29 MethodManFTW
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[QUOTE="CyberAltair5"]As far as the graphics go I don't think they were bad at all but I guess it's because my standards as\ren't high or I'm just easy to please.Papadrach
You've prolly just never really seen what a good game can look like.

.. I've seen Crysis played on max and I own pretty much every console game that is supposed to be top of the console graphics rankings and Black Ops looked just fine to me.
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#30 DevilishStyles
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Call of Duty does not belong on PS3. That's what I believe. Not only does the game suck on the PS3, but the players tend to be quite bad from time to time.

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#31 Papadrach
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[QUOTE="Papadrach"][QUOTE="CyberAltair5"]As far as the graphics go I don't think they were bad at all but I guess it's because my standards as\ren't high or I'm just easy to please.MethodManFTW
You've prolly just never really seen what a good game can look like.

.. I've seen Crysis played on max and I own pretty much every console game that is supposed to be top of the console graphics rankings and Black Ops looked just fine to me.

Terrible shadows, super low textures and lighting.. idk what you see in it lol.
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I see soldiers to shoot at? I'm not the type of person to stare at the grass and check everyones shadow.
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[QUOTE="anime_gamer007"][QUOTE="Sloan360"]

It is there profession and they're good at it. Just because there are technical problems doesn't mean they did a bad job. Every call of duty titles has had problems and this one is no different. If you want to say they can't program then try doing it yourself.

rawrB

It isn't the fact that they have problems in the game, it's what those problems are. Lag, hit detection, framerate, match making and disconnects have never been a problem in the CoD series especially framerate. This issues might have came up here and there in the previous CoDs but it was not nearly as prevalent as in Black Ops. Not that I'm saying Treyarch had any decision making in this(it was likely Activision) but a public beta would have sorted out almost all these issues.



hmm when has there ever been game made were it was perfect on release ... you talk like its a joke and disgrace because its not perfect fact is the lag for some reason has hit hard last few days its not been as bad when it first came out. i complaned about this today myself but man up itl most likely be fixed when the update is out and when it is im sure ill love it just as much as it is a very good game when it all comes togeter its just havin a bad few days

Did I say that every multiplayer needs to be perfect on release? No.

Did I say the game was a complete joke? No

You're putting words in my mouth. All I'm saying is the game SHOULDN'T be having these problems at such a severity. BC2 had a lot issues when it first launch but guess what? Nothing made me quit the game for over a week. Yes, MW2 had issues with matchmaking and connection at launch but that doesn't even approach how often and severe it is in Black Ops. Every time a new multiplayer launches, I expect issues but I never expect them to ruin the game or make me want to stop playing. I didn't stop playing MW2 after the first month because of the few issues they were having. I think Black Ops is an alright game at the moment but could become really great if these things were sorted out.

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Not to mention how bad the graphics are. CoD4 on pc is miles better looking than BO on consoles. They really need to take more time and consideration into the making of these games...

Papadrach

Yep, that's true, and here's my pics of BO MP's that are not on max settings.

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#35 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

There's a new patch coming this week.

Papadrach
Ya like that will fix anything. its been over a month and nothing has changed.

I'm sure there's such things as patches coming out later and fixing things, worked for most games out there.
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#36 bigbux245
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Yea Im starting to get pretty sick of these bugs. Especially since I play with a Wifi connection, I feel like that adds some extra bugs into the mix. Takes forever to start a new Zombies game.
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The shooting is completely broken because of the hit detection issues, making it the worst mp i have played this entire gen. I don't care how many things they got right, if the shooting is not good in a shooter (the most important part), then the game is gonna suck.
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#38 ImprovedMind
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[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"][QUOTE="CyberAltair5"]Going between this and MW2 it's ridiculous how much nonsense we have to put up with. MW2 ran so well with smooth framrate and no lag at all yet BO struggles like it is the one that was released earlier.CyberAltair5
Again, here comes the mod train but that too is only an issue on the PS3. I feel that we PS3 owners got the short of end the stick when it came to Black Ops. The game plays so much better on the 360.

Yeah everyone agrees that the 360 version is obviously the superior one and that's such a shame. Why would you get moderated for stating the obvious?

I just assumed that making a true statement, whilst unfavorable to fans of the PS3, on the PS3 board would be considered trolling by Gamespot's messed up standards.
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Just play Zombies like i do!
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#40 Dogswithguns
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Then why you guys bought the game for?!
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#41 dirtydishko2
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All games have their flaws...

And no game is perfect...

But why do threads like this, which nitpick the hell out of a game and point out ANY and ALL flaws. exaggerating them to death, always pop up about the current best and most popular game out? It's simply because people like Mr. Papadrach here are self-loving and overly opinionated and would really like to believe that their opinions and tastes are more valid than the "simple-minded masses".

The fact of the matter is that this game was not in fact poorly made, and that to the contrary, it was made well enough to become the highest grossing video game of all time. I don't think that a bunch of idiots with half-year degrees in software design put out the most succesful video game ever made.

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#43 Ninja_Zombie83
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[QUOTE="dirtydishko2"]

All games have their flaws...

And no game is perfect...

But why do threads like this, which nitpick the hell out of a game and point out ANY and ALL flaws. exaggerating them to death, always pop up about the current best and most popular game out? It's simply because people like Mr. Papadrach here are self-loving and overly opinionated and would really like to believe that their opinions and tastes are more valid than the "simple-minded masses".

The fact of the matter is that this game was not in fact poorly made, and that to the contrary, it was made well enough to become the highest grossing video game of all time. I don't think that a bunch of idiots with half-year degrees in software design put out the most succesful video game ever made.

Thank You!
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#44 Papadrach
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[QUOTE="Papadrach"]

Not to mention how bad the graphics are. CoD4 on pc is miles better looking than BO on consoles. They really need to take more time and consideration into the making of these games...

mitu123

Yep, that's true, and here's my pics of BO MP's that are not on max settings.

See your not even running on max settings and it looks leagues better. Another reason why im getting it for pc.

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#45 JasonDarksavior
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I mean who doesnt love sitting in lobby with 12/12 people and it says look for more players to balance. Or the game starting in 9...9...9... 9... Or how about map loading.. synchronizing.... ok wtf its been 45 seconds. Oh no lost connection to hose. Oh wait now the game lobby closed. Gotta love looking at all the green bars and still find stuttering. Or laying down a Napalm strike and watching my fps go down to 20. Oh and dont get me started on the hitmarkers...

This game was poorly made. Who made this a bunch of people with a half year degree in software design or programming?

Papadrach
Dude! I thought it was a problem with my connection or something when it said it's needs more players when there are 12 already.
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#46 _SOULtoSQUEEZE_
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All games have their flaws...

And no game is perfect...

But why do threads like this, which nitpick the hell out of a game and point out ANY and ALL flaws. exaggerating them to death, always pop up about the current best and most popular game out? It's simply because people like Mr. Papadrach here are self-loving and overly opinionated and would really like to believe that their opinions and tastes are more valid than the "simple-minded masses".

The fact of the matter is that this game was not in fact poorly made, and that to the contrary, it was made well enough to become the highest grossing video game of all time. I don't think that a bunch of idiots with half-year degrees in software design put out the most succesful video game ever made.

dirtydishko2
If the game was simply called "black ops" and was not affiliated with the call of duty franchise, it wouldn't have half the sales it has now. Not saying it's a bad game, but it's sold so much because of the games before it, and because it carries the call of duty name. I actually like the games content, but from a technical standpoint it's easily the worst call of duty in the series. Yes, every one had some lag problems, spawn problems, hit detection problems, but all of those are magnified in black ops. And the framerate is unacceptable for an online shooter. Again I don't hate the game, but I feel it could be so much better if it didn't have all of the technical problems.
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cod4 is still top dog in the series :P

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cod4 is still top dog in the series :P

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Definitely. That game was a masterpiece. I still play it every now and then.
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cod4 is still top dog in the series :P

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Definitely. That game was a masterpiece. I still play it every now and then.

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#50 FreshDimSum
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cod4 is still top dog in the series :P

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yes i agree! hit detection needs to be improved, sub machine guns needs to be nerfed (they do as almost as much damage as full size assault rifles but with better mobility) and when you take out someone using a remote killstreak like rc-xd, shouldnt the rc like stop moving since the operator die?! common sense plox.