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Xbox Exec Responds to NES Classic Shortages, As Nintendo Promises More Stock

"Irrationally angry at not being able to get the NES Classic."

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Having trouble finding a NES Classic console? You're not alone. The system quickly sold out at retailers following its launch on Friday. Now, Microsoft Studios publishing GM Shannon Loftis has weighed in on the matter, while Nintendo has promised more stock is coming.

She wrote on Twitter today, "Irrationally angry at not being able to get the NES Classic. Come on, Nintendo. Why would you short-bake these??" Dan Ayoub, the head of Halo developer 343, jumped in to say, "Right!??? I was refreshing Amazon like a crazy person."

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It's worth pointing out that Nintendo sent Xbox boss Phil Spencer a NES Classic system days before it was released.

You might have a hard time find a NES Classic right now, but that may not be the case for much longer. Nintendo said on Twitter that it plans to have more units available through the holiday.

The NES Classic costs $60 and comes with 30 games, including some of the console's best ones like Super Mario Bros., Donkey Kong, The Legend of Zelda, and Pac-Man.

For more on what to expect on the Classic Edition--whenever you might be able to get your hands on one--read our full review.

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I understand limiting stock to generate hype. But... the hype has been generated. Along with Hatchimals, this thing is easily the top in demand holiday gift of 2016. It is the Furby, Beanie Baby, or Cabbage Patch Kid of 2016. So... now they should be capitalizing on that, right? Right?

Nope. It's still next to impossible to get one, unless you want to watch stock trackers like a hawk, and spend gas or bus fare to go all over town (or the region) trying your luck, or lining up extremely early in the cold at Target or wherever that does get a few in every now and again. And these retailers routinely report that they only get anywhere from 3 to 12 at a time.

Why not at least offer preorders and limit one per customer online? That would at least give everyone an equal and fair chance against the scalper bots, albeit still a slim one with tight supply.

If the theory is that they are generating artificial scarcity to drive up demand... they are blowing the capitalization phase of that strategy. This is the time, now, before the end of the month, to capitalize. If they don't, a lot of the impulse buy, stocking stuffer appeal will be gone. Sure we'll all get around to buying one - maybe - eventually - when it becomes ubiquitous in coming months. But they will have blown the best time to capitalize, not to mention the good will and positive emotional associations kids and parents alike would have formed by getting one in time for the Holidays.

I love Nintendo. Always have. Always will. But at moments like this, they are aggravating and frustrating to no end. I have health issues and can't go all over the place hunting down what should be a fun impulse buy online. If it's not available online... I'm not getting one. (And I refuse to engage in non-public-domain homebrew or emulation, personally.)

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It's what Nintendo has been doing for a great many years.

I'm not sure why people are surprised every time they release new hardware, they limit supplies. It inflates demand and creates HYPE and we see news articles like this that get other consumers interested in something they might have passed up before.

It's free advertising. It's not right, and it's a despicable practice, but I've grown accustomed to this move by companies, and especially Nintendo. for a great many years now.

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ITT: "I'll just stick to stealing." LOL

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Still can't believe they didn't include contra in the games

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I think I'm the only one who sees no appeal in this thing. You can emulate all of these on a handheld for free, and that's where I'd prefer to be playing them. If I wanted to play them.

On a FHD TV, an 8-bit console is going to look like total garbage. At least on my PSP or 3DS, I can play with 1:1 pixel mapping if I want to. And it's just much more convenient. You can take it anywhere and not be tethered to a 3" controller.

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@lostn: I just thought it'd be a good Christmas present for my niece and nephew. I guess I'll just give them some legos or something, and maybe next year I'll be able to get them one. They won't know what they're missing.

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@Flen15: Nintendo will have enough in stock by Christmas. Nothing to worry about. This is not directed towards you. People in general think if they can't find something near black Friday they won't be able to by Christmas.

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Artificial shortages create an irrational desire among consumers.

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Lol ill stick to my emulators

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Once again Nintendo proving how crap a company the really are

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Pricing is ridiculous. 2 dollars per game but VC titles cost 5 each? WTF.

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In the 1980s and 1990s this strategy may have worked but now people are smart enough to know they can purchase online from 3rd party venues, and unfortunately these 3rd party venues are scalping the prices to make a huge profit on Nintendo's error.

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I'm just waiting for the Mini N64

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After seeing a comment below i can see on ebay that since the system was cheap, people have bought a bunch and are reselling them for stupid amounts of money. This coupled with the fact that these game are all available on the 3DS etc as well as easily available on emulators, probably meant Nintendo wasnt expecting that many to sell. Either way irrationally angry is a stupid way to be over something like this, especially form an adult and xbox executive, i get her point but am also past the point of...i cant have one NOW.....RRRAGGGEEEEE

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I mean or you could just buy an old NES and a bunch of games and not waste your money on a system with only 30 games..

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Same old Nintendo, so glad they have learned over the decades. No wonder they are still so far behind the times.

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Because if you don't purchase one within the first few weeks of its release THE WORLD WILL TEAR ITSELF ASUNDER.
Come on, folks. If you want to play NES games that badly, I mean... we all know the solution.

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The thing has the chipset of a dollar store calculator......they could have had enough day one to satisfy the demand easily. This is Nintendo and although I have been a fanboy for three decades now, their schtick is getting old. I will not feel so bad when they go the way of Sega after the Switch flops.

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Oh please, they could have made enough to meet demand. Typical Nintendo, we're all sick of it.

I can wait for mine. I'm not paying $200 for this thing on ebay.

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The logic of the criticism of Nintendo doing this.

Nintendo outsells their early stock: F*** you Nintendo! Dick move!

Nintendo DOESN'T outsell their stock (ex: Wii U): lol F*** you, Nintendo! You suck now! Go third party!

Jeez, they can't win here, can they?

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@nintendoboy16: People are tired of Nintendo pulling this short supply launch tactic. It's always said to "build hype" or whatever but what does it even matter at this point? The hype's been cultivating since the thing was announced. All they're essentially doing is allowing scalpers to have a good time with the scarcity at launch.

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@Exceed20XX: Have you forgotten what fragile state Nintendo is in right now? It's at a point where it almost feels like anyone hardly gives a f*** for Nintendo anymore (whether or not they deserve it is a story for another day) and has been the case for four damn gens now. The only reason the "hype was there" was because so many hypocritically nostalgics hype it.

The scalpers are going to get their asses bit soon.

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@nintendoboy16: Fragile state? Nintendo's not in dire straits, Sony more likely is. They're the ones that had to sell off and relocate offices. There's a lot of fans who like to remind naysayers that Nintendo's got quite the fat bank account even with a tanking platform. Generally we know this to be true since Pokemon (Go especially) is a thing, so are amiibos (despite declining popularity), as well as the 3DS. If people didn't give a crap about Nintendo anymore then the amiibo fiascos would've never been a thing, nor would the Fates SE preorder scramble. They've done these "launch shortages" many times.

As for scalpers getting their due, I'm not seeing it so far. It's arguable they've become more and more prominent lately and sadly Nintendo tends to be an easy target for them, just like Limited Run and such. They have to do better with assessing their supply and demand game, otherwise they're pretty much giving others the opportunity to make the profits they themselves should be making upfront.

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@Exceed20XX: 3DS - While doing better than Wii U, is getting it's ass kicked by the mobile market.

Pokemon GO- Cue John Oliver's "How is this still a thing?", given it's dropped userbase and mediocre reception (side note: you wanted a third party Nintendo people and think they wouldn't get lower reviews, well, look at GO...) on the level of Sonic Lost World.

Amiibos - Craze super short lived (hell, I only own one, my POP figure collection is bigger)

Scalpers - Dude, NOA announced on their Twitter that they're resupplying during the whole holiday season.

So yeah, Nintendo is in a considerable fragile state when "hardcore" gamers view them as a joke (to be fair, they always have) and casuals have since moved away from them.

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@nintendoboy16: OR, reasonable stock, high sales, and then those sweet sweet headlines about one million sold day one.

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Well one thing I can say is that saves will go back to the cartridge, so no storage space needed...cost of system reduced. And seeing as how they were able to do more with SNES games once they added the FX chip, in guessing they could do at lot more with a system that's less powerful than PS4 or XBOX ONE.

My guess is Nintendo has created a system that runs more efficiently, cost way less, that can run games as good as anything currently on the market by using cartridges.

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@spaceman333: ...there are no cartridges and it plays exactly 30 NES games.

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I can already imagine most people in the gaming industry wanting these. 99 percent of them probably grew up with the NES! I'm in no rush to get one and I hope they don't make these things limited...

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Fred Meyer by my house still had them. Seattle area

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Call me when they get a version that has Captain Skyhawk...

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Nintendo always does this. They must feel the only way they can generate excitement is to create faux shortages, so then people sell the systems on Kijiji and eBay and it becomes a story on a slow news day. I admit it's a cool idea but a 2.5' controller cable is ludicrous and useless. How did Nintendo manage to eff that up? It's a cable!

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@moxxidude: they didn't mess anything up, they want you to fork over more money for extender cables.

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@dashaka: But the people that are making the money off the extension cables are not Nintendo. Nintendo doesn't even offer one. Most people are just going to Monoprice and buying both an extra long HDMI and a USB cable with shipping combined for dirt cheap. Those are two cable types that Nintendo will NEVER be able to compete with. Same way people cry about how much Apple accessories cost because they're adding the firstparty ones to their cart when they buy the product. Instead of exploring their options out of basically being uneducated. We've all bought a Monster cable once in our lives and learned later that it was waste of money, let's be honest, lol.

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Wow it did that well?

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Lil off topic...

Question for my tech heads:

If the switch is slightly underpowered compared to the ONE/4, could the use of cartridges close that gap by handling some of the processing?

Not my area of expertise?

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@spaceman333: No, cartridges will offer no benefit to processing, but what it can do is help minimise impact on system RAM depending on how a given game is developed.

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@Tee_Mal: While in development, the Super FX chip was codenamed "Super Mario FX"[2] and "MARIO", which is an acronym for "Mathematical, Argonaut, Rotation & Input/Output", where "MARIO" is printed on the face of the final production chip.[3] With the release of Star Fox in 1993, the Super FX became the best selling RISC-based processor at that time.[3]

The chip is used to render 3D polygons and to assist the SNES in rendering advanced 2D effects. This custom-made RISC processor is typically programmed to act like a graphics accelerator chip that draws polygons to a frame buffer in the RAM that sits adjacent to it. The data in this frame buffer is periodically transferred to the main video memory inside of the console using DMA in order to show up on the television display.

Star Fox uses the chip for simple polygon rendering, where the polygons number in the hundreds. It uses scaled bitmaps for lasers, asteroids, and other obstacles, but other objects such as ships are rendered with polygons. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island uses the chip for advanced graphics effects like sprite scaling and stretching, for huge sprites that allowed for boss characters to take up the whole screen, and for multiple foreground and background parallax layers to give a greater illusion of depth.

The first version of the chip, commonly referred to as simply "Super FX", is clocked with a 21.4 MHz signal, but an internal clock speed divider halves it to 10.7 MHz. Later on, the design was revised to become the Super FX GSU (Graphics Support Unit); this, unlike the first Super FX chip revision, is able to reach 21 MHz.

All versions of the Super FX chip are functionally compatible in terms of their instruction set. The differences arise in how they are packaged, their pinout, and their internal clock speed. As a result of changing the package when creating the GSU-2, more external pins were available and assigned for addressing. As a result, a larger amount of external ROM or RAM can be accessed.

Game cartridges that contain a Super FX chip have additional contacts at the bottom of the cartridge that connect to the extra slots in the cartridge port that are not otherwise typically used.

This is what they added to cartridges as an afterthought back in the 90's. What could they potentially do by designing a cartridge to do this from day one?...

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@spaceman333: joking? plz say yes.

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@whatsazerg: joking...maybe you should read up on the "super fx chip" graphics support unit. That was done back in the 90's.

I imagine they could potentially do something amazing to a cartridge with today's technology...not that they will, but it is a possibility. And would be a brilliant "Trojan Horse"

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@spaceman333: not how it works

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I want one.

Don't really care about all the "reasons" supplied on this board. I already have most of the games on VC or I have the carts.

I just think it's a fun little toy and for $60 I'm not trying to think too hard about it or where it "fits" in the industry.

In Ninty makes an SNES and a an N64 one, I'll be buying those too.

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It's a tactic. This isn't the first time Nintendo intentionally shorted supply to give the illusion of demand. Retailers put in an order for 10 of them, and get 2. Of course it's going to "sell out." This is why marketing strategists make very nice salaries.

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@crunchb3rry: I was gonna say. This is sorta Nintendo's M.O.

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Played the heck out of these games a long time ago. I'll spend my time with my new games.

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@ticklemepink: One doesn't preclude the other, really. The only games that should take a TRULY long time are the Zeldas, Final Fantasy and Simon's Quest.. Though why anyone would want to play the vanilla Simon's quest instead of one of the enhanced fan translations is beyond me.

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please everyone don't buy the console on Ebay.

$500 bucks is just .... well you know.

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@japanesemeowth: Agreed. Buying these things only rewards this behavior.

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