Wii U 'isn't going to work' says Pachter

I agree 100% with him. The Wii U looks like the pile of steaming crap, with a tablet controller. Gimmicks DO NOT make good games. EVER. So, who exactly would enjoy having to look from controller screen to HDTV screen constantly? Not me. Not interested. The Wii U isn't even 1% interesting to me.

How does Pachter still have a job? He's proven in the past that he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

i think the wii u will work, but i understand where he is coming from. as an owner of all pre wii (lol) nintendo console nintendo has made some pretty bad decision about consoles. the gamecube while it had a few bright spots sucked as a system. the n64 was the begin of the decisions. we can all pretend that nintendo can do no wrong but they have always been gamblers and their just now paying back old debts.

i just think that the Wii U is trying to appeal to the hardcore gamers as well, and when hardcore third party games will come out in 2 years from now they wont be ported to the Wii U since it will be behind the times with the next gen consoles. i think that once the next xbox and PS come out the Wii U will be left with only first party games. but as pachter said - the nintendo crowd will buy anything with the nintendo logo on it, and im sure 1st party mario games will sell nicely. but the casual market who bought the Wii won't buy the Wii U for casual games. the Wii succeeded because there was a huge untapped well of casual gamers with no cheap console. now, with the tablets and smart phone games and the old Wii, is that crowd still hungry? after all - it stopped buying the Wii. it had enough. that crowd is either happy with the Wii or phone games or will look for something that is a step up, and im not sure the Wii U is a big enough of a step up.

Pachter has his head up his ass, again.

I love how he claims publishers demanded the Pro controller, even though he has no basis other than his usually wrong opinion. Pachter doesn't seem to understand that the Pro controller is the same thing as the touchscreen controller, but without the screen, microphone, camera, gyros, etc. So it's not like you can't play Call of Duty with it.

He's an idiot. He was saying much of the same thing when the Wii came out (notice how he says "They got lucky with the Wii"). He was wrong then, and he's wrong now.

Why are we listening to a "security analyst" is my biggest question here. Give me someone from a developing studio with a decent history in video gaming. If this guy has some hidden past then that should be mentioned in this article. Doesn't seem to deem an article from face value.

It will not work: exactly what they said about Nintendo 3DS...

Too harsh. Aren't most of Nintendo's best selling games developed in-house? I am sure those games will find ways to use the Wii U's controller. As for the Pro controller, if it allow games like CoD to finally happen on a Nintendo console, why not? I would hope for further innovation like the Wii was, but MS is now leading the charge for motion capture/control. I guess Nintendo wasn't able to come up with anything better than the controller with screen this time...

I am worried that the Wii U is becoming too similar to the Xbox and PS. History has shown that the global console market can only comfortably support two major competitors that are substantially similar, which the Wii has largely avoided by being so different. Maybe the prediction that one of the major consoles will soon leave the market is true. If Nintendo begin to compete in the realm of AAA FPS and action adventure games, provided it can and that the circumstance surrounding its decision to compete is sufficiently dire, perhaps either Sony or Nintendo will leave the playfield soon.

Or perhaps not, and Mr. Pachter's insinuation that Nintendo is active courting major developers on the other two consoles is large unfounded.

Does this guy ever get tired of being wrong all the time?

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I think that Pachter nailed it. As an owner of a Wii that hasn't been powered on in over a year, my main response to WiiU is 'I will not be sucked in again'. It's much harder to predict fads than it is to predict lasting trends. His original view of the Wii may look like a major blunder financially, in the end he was right, the fad passed, and the company could be bankrupt soon. "A solution in search of a problem" sums up the console, for me

Cardboard box that plays Mario, you say?!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20106160-501465/playable-super-mario-bros-in-a-shoebox-genius/

He also said the Wii would fail and the PSP would likely be the best selling handheld of all time. Stop listening to people who get it wrong. I'm likely not getting a Wii U at launch, but I stopped listening to analysts a long time ago, mostly because they get it wrong so often.

Pachter sounds less and less professional everyday. His predictions have always stank but comments like those just make him sound bitter. I feel sorry for the people who can't tell he has a chip on his shoulder the size of Texas.

As much as I dislike Pachter, I kind of agree, kind of. I think it will still sell well. Nintendo is banking on the same sort of quirky image and feel that made Wii successful to the casual crowd. If they are smart, they will price it as cheap as they can out the gate.

But for me...I am even more skeptical this go around than I was when the Wii was first announced. Mainly for the reason I didn't like the DS. I never found the second screen so dramatically useful as to revolutionize my experience. And every time I had to use the touch screen while in the middle of game play, I was highly...highly annoyed.

I have my doubts with the Wii-U. Epsecially after i lost intrest of the wii once i upgraded to a HDTV. But i'll just end up buying the Wii-U for the exlusives once again and the fact its HD. Graphics are a big factor for me when buying consoles.

I'm not sure who the bigger idiot is. Michael Prachter for his moronic commentary, or Wedbush Securities for employing this schmuck. You just go ahead and keep predicting failure, Michael. Even a busted clock is right twice a day.

LOL @ the Wii was luck. 95 million units = luck? Somebody slap this idiot, what does he have a qualification in?

Ever walk by an alley in a city and say...that looks sketchy? Walking into this article and saying anything either way is going to pour gasoline on a fire. Fanboy or not...the world decides success or failure. I for one...oh I almost walked down the alley....

let be honest Patcher is a idiot nothing he says is ever right so why the hell should we listen on this he hated on the Wii and that was a success and the Wii U will be too after all it is Nintendo

And Patcher still gets press?

I think the Wii U will do well for a few reasons:

(1) Lower dev costs than their copetition. Despite what PUBLISHERS say, many devs are extremely wearly of sky-rocketing dev costs. Hell, David Jaffe and John Carmack have been quite public about it.

(2) Sony and Microsoft have already leaked info regarding no backward compatibility AND blocking used games on their next hardware. This alone has assured Nintendo the #1 spot. The Wii U has backward compatibility (Wii library and VC) and no mention of used game blocking.

(3) Many 3rd party AAA titles are getting Wii U ports with exclusive features at launch. Assassin's Creed Revelations, Batman Arkum City... So core gamers will be serviced nicely.

And the remark about Activision strong-arming Nintendo into creating a conventional controller for FPSes? Horse shit. The Wii U Pro Controller is a new iteration of the Wii's Classic Controller...which has been around since 2006. So Activision needs to stop adding inches to their little man.

Nintendo haters are only joining the jamboree because they've thrown buckets of money at Sony and M$ and now they're about to get shitted when the 8th gen rolls around. s if the 7th gen's dlc rackets, $60 games, forced online for multiplayer and half-assed bc wasn't shitting on them enough.

Yes, Pachter clearly KNOWS Activision forced Nintendo on the Wii U Pro controller, yet he said "Activision has never said anything to him". Did it ever cross Pachter's mind that Nintendo made the Wii U Pro controller in case some games don't work with an untraditional controller, like the Wii and how it had games like that (prime examples, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Goldeneye, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Sonic Unleashed/Colors)?

In the words of Krillin/Kuririn (Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 1): Oh, man. Could he BE a bigger idiot?

The Wii wasn't lucky. It captured a new segment of the market that wasnt traditionally into gaming. However, I dont know if the Wii U will be able to create that same kind of enthusiasm. The wii was popular because it was something new. The Wii U won't have that same kind of novelty, so it may be tougher for them to be as successful. But that's the same story with any product.

The Wii wasn't luck. I honestly think Nintendo utilized a control scheme that was previously untapped and it resonated with a large group of people. I wasn't one of those people and with the Wii-U that won't change. The idea of motion control is cool but I'd rather have it as an option rather than be forced. I also don't have a desire to use a tablet of any kind. I hate touchscreens, it feels gimmicky and unreliable. The pro controller design is a rip-off from the Xbox 360 controller which I can't stand either however I'd much rather use that than the touch screen. I hope the pro controller is an available option for use in many of Nintendo's games and not limited to just third party hardcore games because it was pretty annoying finding out that the Wii had a classic controller and GC controller support but wasn't available an option for every game.

Nintendo didn't "get lucky" with the original Wii. They tapped a market that hadn't been tapped before by using a different, more active type of controller. The new controller meant that they weren't competing directly with the 360 and PS3 and it brought in a boatload of "new to consoles" casual gamers, adults and even elderly people. Their player base went beyond the traditional gamer and they made bajillions of dollars. Good on them. It is true that their gamble might not have worked but that is called taking a risk, not getting lucky.

That said, I think the Wii U is going away from the player base that made the Wii so successful. Casual gamers and the older generation won't be attracted to it like they were to the Wii and the tablet controller doesn't instinctively distinguish itself from any other tablet device out there. I think they are reducing their potential market and worst of all, they are going to be competing directly with MS and Sony with their Windows 8 to Xbox and Vita to PS3 functionality that is already in place. They're starting this new generation on par with MS and Sony which is a bad place to be when your hardware is so inferior...

The Wii U is essentially offering two things with the tablet controller: more screen real estate and the ability in local multiplayer to restrict some information to one player. What really groundbreaking things does that offer?

It wall fall on it's ass, and I will laugh. And then be a bit sad that Japan has lost it.

LOL, I dont think japanese developer will drop support for Wii U.

Wii U will not fail. People are limited in thinking that Nintendo is trying to fit into what Microsoft and Sony are doing. Nintendo is doing it's own thing, and has so since the launch of the original Wii. When Nintendo starts marketing this thing, it'll appeal to everyone they're trying to target. The only skeptical people are the hard cores on PS3 and Xbox. Business wise, Nintendo does not want to fail, so they will make sure they're successful, weather that includes the hardcore or not.

The question here is not if they'll fail business wise, unless your an investor, the question is, will Nintendo fail us? The fans, or other video game enthusiasts.

Wii U will not fail. People are limited in thinking that Nintendo is trying to fit into what Microsoft and Sony are doing. Nintendo is doing it's own thing, and has so since the launch of the original Wii. When Nintendo starts marketing this thing, it'll appeal to everyone they're trying to target. The only skeptical people are the hard cores on PS3 and Xbox. Business wise, Nintendo does not want to fail, so they will make sure they're successful, weather that includes the hardcore or not.The question here is not if they'll fail business wise, unless your an investor, the question is, will Nintendo fail us? The fans, or other video game enthusiasts.

Well, now we can be sure WiiU will be a success. Patcher is better in being faulty than any famous prophets of the past at being right. At least one thing he is totally dependable in :-)

Wii U will be the cheapest console! Oh wait... it'll be the only console...

I have a lot of faith in the WiiU. I think that it has a lot of potential and it is effectively bringing back the idea of multiplayer gaming. I have been looking for many games that I can play socially, and as always nintendo has found a way for me to do that. It's not promising too much, and it's not giving out too little. The console is just right for casual as well as pro gamers.