Which PS4 Games Don't Work On PS5?

@gamerbum: See, now you know why I had a caveat on my support the other day ;)

Until the PS5 comes out and we all get a chance to see what they've done and compare it to the Series X it hardly makes any sense to bash them.

Xbox is built from the PC environment as opposed to a console environment. It has always been both a blessing and a hinderance. Never knowing whether to bring the Console into the PC world or to fully envelop themselves into the console world.

The Xbox 360 was actually them creeping towards a console world but it still had enough PC influence and momentum to push it forward. The release candidate Xbox One was some kind of ugly bastard child of the future that really didn't know what it wanted to be. The work done over the generation defined what it could and should have been and that's where we start off with the Series X/S.

The Xbox X/S is in familiar ground now that it's leaning into its PC roots. The future isn't about being bound by the restraints of the console world and Microsoft has a leg up because of it. That doesn't mean that what Sony builds is poor or inferior. Microsoft leads in its ecosystem not it's performance. Yes even the handful of pixels the One X afforded over the PS4 Pro is hardly that much of a boon.

The PS5 looks to be a formidable machine and even if what people expect comes to be true the minor drop in framerate or pixels will hardly be a devastating win for Microsoft. Sony's not going anywhere. If these forums aren't enough proof for you that they've got a massive dedicated fanbase then you're not paying attention.

"Xbox have always seemed to push things forward or be on the forefront of things."

Being on the forefront is good and all but not to the point where no-one is up there with you. This and it's miscommunication is a large part of the reason why Microsoft bombed out the gate this generation. Now that we're heading into the next generation almost all of the elements that Microsoft were trying to incorporate are in there. This time it's implemented smarter and more consumer friendly.

@Xylymphydyte: Yes and it took years to iron out the kinks.

@firedrakez: Microsoft has been putting in the time and effort to build its infrastructure for years now. It also helps that they designed their OS from the ground up and that it's the most highly developed for OS on the planet.

The back compat supported these days requires a lot more work than it did for PS1/PS2 era titles. Sony who ditched BC in on the PS4 has got a lot more work to do to catch up in this area.

That all being said I think they'll be fine as far as things go with PS4 support.

@firedrakez: The BC on the 360 was awful. And making old games run better on newer hardware isn't impressive.

@cboye18: Uh, guys, Sony has made it pretty clear they don't really care that much about BC. They're not trying to complete. Acting like this is a point of contention is pretty silly.

@cboye18: Sony have always said PS4 Pro's boost mode may cause unexpected behaviours in games and guess what? Not a single game has encountered "unexpected behaviour" with boost mode on. They just like to cover their backs to stop Americans suing them.

@cboye18: Exactly. Xbox utilizes an army of testers even on their BC games to make sure they work before they are released. That is how they find out some Xbox 360 games like Halo Reach didn't work very well on the Xbox One X and forced them to improve on their emulation techniques.

"I mentioned we had an army of testers, but we were pretty raw in terms of how we evaluated the games' capabilities. In a lot of cases, it was just side-by-side playthroughs. And Reach was sort of a key moment for us because we thought the game looked great. When we first started doing Reach, it was a mess. It was one of the most complex games we had done. We've got some early videos where nothing renders right, so when we got it playing and when we started playing it ourselves, it was a milestone achievement for us from the standpoint of the emulator rendering the game properly. Then we saw the analysis of the game and it was pretty clear we had missed."

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-xbox-one-x-back-compat-how-does-it-actually-work

They don't depend upon consumers to test them on a case by case basis and find out for themselves which work and which ones have problems, like Sony is doing on the PS5.

@cboye18: if a game ps4 game bricks your new console then I highly suggest that you move on over to the Xbox. Bricking your console should never be that easy point blank.

@cboye18: You're not going to brick your hardware from a game title. It may lock up your game but a simple reset or at worst power cycle would fix the issue. Not that I'm saying that wouldn't still be frustrating.

@dancingcactus:

He's making it up and clearly doesn't know how to use quotation marks inserting his own thoughts instead.

He said the same thing almost word for word over on IGN under his username "HereisJohnny" over there. Just a troll that need to go back under his bridge.

@dancingcactus: I don't see any keywords either but I think it's more like paraphrasing since the link provided talks about potential issues with otherwise playable games.

@Barighm: The main problem with old titles straight up not being playable on new console hardware is all surrounding licensing, this is not an issue on PC. With PC it's usually software compatibility and to a lesser degree hardware performance. This is more in line with what we're seeing with PS4 back compat on PS5. Although less OS related, more hardware related.

I think they're finally trying to sort out better contracts when licencing for the future now that they've realized that people are still willing to buy old titles for new hardware. It's such a pain in the ass to try to renegotiate a decade down the road for a title that will only be trickling cash.

@xantufrog: they probably just asked the game companies to report any incompatibilities on their games and these are the 10 that were reported not playable. Maybe some companies didn't even bother and more games would be deem incompatible when time passes...