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Naughty Dog will keep its engine tech for PS4 development

Uncharted and The Last of Us developer says creating an all-new engine between PS2 and PS3 "caused a lot of turmoil."

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Naughty Dog has said it will keep the proprietary engine used on PlayStation 3 titles like Uncharted 3 and The Last of Us for PlayStation 4 development.

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The Last of Us game director Bruce Straley said that Naughty Dog intends to avoid the "turmoil" it suffered when creating an entirely new game engine for the PlayStation 3.

"We learned a big lesson coming from PS2 to PS3," said Straley in an interview with Digital Spy. "There was a lot of hype over what [PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360] was going to be. It was all going to be like movies, like a prerendered cutscene-style fidelity."

"That turned out not to be true," he added. "What we're able to do now is pretty damn close, but it took Naughty Dog four games to get there--one of the top developers in the industry with some of the most amazing scientists working in our programming department."

"We scrapped everything at the beginning of Uncharted 1, and we had a perfectly good engine with the Jak & Daxter franchise.

Straley says that Naughty Dog had a "perfectly good" engine powering the Jak & Daxter titles on the PlayStation 2. "We could have started with something there and then built off of it and only changed the pieces and parts as we needed, when we needed," said Straley, adding that the choice to develop a new engine for the original Uncharted "really caused a lot of turmoil."

The team at Naughty Dog "learned our lesson" and so intends to take its current engine to the PlayStation 4. "As we move into development into next-gen, we want to take our current engine, port it immediately over as is, and say, 'OK, we have a great AI system, we have a good rendering system.'"

Naughty Dog intends to improve the engine to make use of the PlayStation 4's next-gen technology, but adds that "only when we hit a wall will we say, 'When do we need to change something? When do we need to scale it?"

"It's one of those things that you learn in development," concluded Straley. "We've gained something from this experience, and now we want to apply it moving into next gen."

Naughty Dog's PlayStation 3-exclusive The Last of Us will be released on June 14.

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My PS3 just died and I have no monies to replace it atm. I'm gonna have to wait for Last of Us. :(


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@AshenSkies91 dont worry pal! This will be just a Piece of Mediocre $hit just like U 3 was!

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@Chui_GamingX @AshenSkies91 Uncharted 3 actually pretty good. And you should be shame for yourself for judging a game that not even out yet. You're insulting people.

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@Lionheart8472 U1 was definitely better than U3, I mean the game didn't even have a final boss.

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@frankiehk927 @Chui_GamingX @AshenSkies91 Uncharted 3 was good, but it definitely wasn't as good as Number 2, but overall I thought it was better than One which was also good.

Honestly it's hard to top the master piece that was Uncharted 2.

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@Chui_GamingX @AshenSkies91 Unreal 3 was actually pretty good. Oh... you mean Uncharted 3 which, while not as good as 2, was still far better than the majority of the games released each year.

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@AshenSkies91 what model was it?

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@Matty_gamer @AshenSkies91 An old PS3 fat from lauch. Tbh I was impressed it lasted this long!

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MAKE JAK AND DAXTER NOT THIS UNCHARTED MOVIE CRAP

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@kye-mc CAPS LOCK FTW

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Edited By Gravity_Slave

I really wanted to play this, almost as bad as when I first heard about Fallout 3. But I'm not buying a PS3 for one or two games. Not with the next gen around the corner. Bad move Naughty Dog.

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@Gravity_Slave One or two games??? Lol if you buy a PS3 you will have a LIBRARY of AAA EXCLUSIVES mate. unlike xbox360 which I own just for Gears, Halo, Crackdown franchises and Bayonetta. The Uncharted trilogy is a good enough reason to get a PS3 yh they are THAT good trust me. Best of em is Uncharted 2 but yh they are phenomenal

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@scorpgul

I'm talking about the franchise. There are literally a few games that I care about on the PS3 and this is one of them. The other is what you mentioned (Uncharted). That just doesn't justify a sale. And what moron above didn't get is that I don't want to buy a new system with next gen systems on the horizon.

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@Gravity_Slave Really?, so the developers should be immediately killing current generation. Selfishness is one of your core virtues i guess.

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Please stop talking. You're a train-wreck.

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@AzulSoul

And stupidity must be your core virtue. Not once did I say anything about killing current gen. Before you start spewing idiocy out that booger receptacle you call a mouth, read it through. I'm talking about multiplatform availability. Do the world a favor and refrain from breeding.

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@AzulSoul @Gravity_Slave

"But I'm not buying a PS3 for one or two games."

Sounds like someone whos talking about multiplatform to me. 360?

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@Gravity_Slave

lol

I nearly pissed myself.

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Lol seriously? Ohhh I see...you're retarded. No worries, I volunteered at a YMCA for "special needs" people once.

*jingles car keys*

"look at the shiny keys! You like the pretty keys don't you? Now eat your pudding...there you go."

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@Gravity_Slave @AzulSoul you never stated about the game being available in other consoles. when you think using your brain and not a sponge maybe you should understand what you did.

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@Gravity_Slave It may be bad for you but for the rest of us who own a PS3 this is excellent news. We get to play a highly anticipated and brand new IP without having to spend $400+ dollars on a new console.

Sony's continued focus on supporting their old consoles even as they launch a new one makes me glad i bought a PS3.

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Honestly if you have a great art style and gameplay who cares about graphics. I am happy to hear they are working on a game for the PS4. I am excited for Last of Us. I got it pre ordered. The first game I pre ordered since Halo 2 on the original Xbox.

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To be very honost, even though im so tired of the outdated graphics of curent gen, and can't wait to see the next gen titles, But games from Naughty Dog never remind me of the fact that i'm plying them on an 7 years old console.

I donno what is the magic but frankly there is no way that the, The Last Of Us looks like a typical current gen games. It's really look a next gen stuff, in fact if they'd have shown it in PS4 conference ... everyone would be like WOW that's some next gen graphics!!!

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@Aria1368

Well they got one of the best artists in the industry that's sure going to give the significant boost in graphics you know it not just 108,000x192,000 of resolution or super detailed textures that you can see the bacteria's making colony to make a great graphics or even the so called best engine in the industry like UE3,the best example being Hour of Victory,it got the pretty good engine but terrible art direction and artists so the game still looked like shit.


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@Aria1368 Last part of your comment is very true! +1

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In my opinion, Naughty Dog were one of the only developers that were able to harness the power of the PS3. For all of the comparisons between the 360 and PS3, this was the only series that made the unit stand out. All other games looked basically the same.

The exclusives on both systems look amazing, but Uncharted (due to the engine) had a slight edge. I feel if they had more time they could get even more performance out of the Cell. When the PS1 came out we saw the systems maximum potential and it was the same with the PS2. With the PS4 on the horizon, I don't think we will see the true potential of the PS3 which is really a shame.

It may have been a bad call in the beginning, but I am glad they started from scratch.

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@ciphfer When the PSOne came out we certainly did not see it's full potential.

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@ciphfer Don't forget Guerrila Studios and their Killzone franchise. K3 was one of the best looking FPS of this generation.

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@ciphfer Im glad that with the PS4 we shouldn't have to wait so long to see the potential of the system. As you said, ND was one of the only developers to push the Cell which is at testament to the quality of the studio and also a testament to the idiocy of Sony putting the Cell in the PS3 to begin with.

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@ciphfer Well it's mainly because the cell was such a nightmare. I agree though it had hidden depths. You just had to wrench it outta of them.

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This should mean quicker dev cycles

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@EPaul Hopefully along the lines of Uncharted 4 launch title... :D

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This makes a lot of sense. Why spend time and resources creating a new engine from scratch if you can adapt and change your existing game engine as required?

It should also mean less disruption and time wasted in developing their new game, because everyone is familiar with their existing tech.

I applaud them for this.

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Uncharted is one of my favorite IPs from this gen and I can't wait for Last of Us. Their programmers are great but I tend to not listen when their directors start talking tech.

I remember when Uncharted came out and the director was bragging about how they pushed the PS3 to its limits... until Uncharted 2 came out and they said the game was so much bigger and better than the first and used 100% of PS3's power (and nothing could ever come close on the 360)... until Uncharted 3 came out...


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@boom_f15 Often times they are maxing out the console. They refine their own engine to squeak out more from itself than the PS3.

In other words they refine their own coding to be more efficient with the power they have.

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@Adavanter @boom_f15 Exactly! Which means they have yet to max out the console. They simply maxed out their ability to use the console... big difference.

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Just finished playing the last of us demo. Believe me, be excited people.

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@Pre_ordered_PS4 How the ****?

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@Prats1993 It came with God of war Ascension but today was the day that it could finally be played

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@Prats1993 @Pre_ordered_PS4 Visually, it is stunning. It don't get any better than this on current gen consoles. Gameplay wise it handles very similar to Uncharted, so if you have played any of those games you'll feel right at home.

The voice acting, atmosphere and world that naughty dog have created is superb.

I was quite excited but now having played the demo, i cannot freaking wait!

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@Pre_ordered_PS4 @Prats1993 What was it like ? Did it play well, Smooth? And what about its visuals?

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@Pre_ordered_PS4 is it for pre-orders only, or can any 1 get the demo

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@LiquidGold @Pre_ordered_PS4 It came with God of war Ascension but today was the day that it could be played

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@Pre_ordered_PS4 SO WHAT ALL the NOISE! THIS IS 10 MIN DEMO SHOWED EARLIER! THEN meh...

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They will adjust their game engine for PS4. But the main thing was switching from doing things on PS2 to doing things on PS3.

The word you are looking for is MULTICORE and Parallel Processing. Another buzz word is DATA DRIVEN DESIGN (vs OOP) - turning every chunk of code into data flows between processors, instead having to wait for object 1 to connect with object 2 and object 3 even though 2 and 3 are already done (layman terms).

They learned their lesson on PS3 the hard way, since the architecture would not allow for shortcuts, you are still able to take on Xbox360 & PC?

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they know exatly what to do, there perfect!!

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Naughty Dog's engine is perfectly fine. As someone who games primarily on PC I could see what a beast Uncharted 3 would have been with antialiasing, higher res textures and running at 1080p. Even on the outdated PS3 it was one of the best looking games of this gen. Their next game on PS4 will look amazing as it will allow them to enable directx 11

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@scorpgul PS4 use openGL not DirectX .

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@scorpgul

Totally agree.

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you have to applaud the hardworkers in the industry. Looking forward to many more games from ND.

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My feelings are mixed on this one because as great as their games were this generation, I wouldn't want to play Uncharted 4 or any new Naughty Dog game with just newer textures and higher resolutions. Not to mention every single game will resemble Uncharted in terms of movement and whatnot. I mean, look at the Last of Us, (yes, it looks fantastic, but it's difficult to ignore all of the similarities to Uncharted.)

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