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Is the PS4, Xbox One, and Wii U console war dumb?

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Editorial: Fanboys love arguing about which system is better, but is it harmless fun or something hurtful to the industry?

One topic that instantly draws the most vehement discussion and irate comments on GameSpot is the so-called "console war." It seems like everyone either wants to sound off on how their console is the best and everyone who disagrees is a mindless fanboy, or comment with equal fervor about how none of this matters and everyone's an idiot.

People obviously care a lot, but is that a good thing? Is such ardent fandom just a harmless expression of brand loyalty, or does single-minded adherence to one system over another actually hurt discussion about games? GameSpot's staff sound off.

I Nintendon't give a damn - Daniel Hindes

If you're the kind of person who feels the need to take shots in this silly console war, take a second before hurling the next stone and look at the situation. You're arguing for the value of a product over the existence of another. You're grasping at company lines and transforming them into gospel. You're doing exactly what Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo want. You're not a gamer anymore--you're a mouthpiece for a corporation that doesn't actually care about you as an individual. I'm still battered and scarred from the PC gaming wars--AMD vs Intel; Radeon vs NVIDIA--and they were fighting over the exact same system, and the exact same games!

The biggest irony here is that the console war is over--and you won. The major systems are now so alike in core tech and third-party game options that the differences are, at best, negligible. We're well past the days of the Nintendo 64, PlayStation 1 and, let's not forget, the Dreamcast, when not even the controllers had enough similarities to make cross-platform games a viable thing. With very few exceptions, you can pretty much play whatever you want on whatever system your $600 outlay has turned you into a loyalist for. So what is there left to argue over? Display resolutions, refresh rates, multiplayer services--I'm already getting flashbacks to those PC gaming arguments.

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A lot like appreciating LeBron - Tom Mc Shea

Alright, I realize that using an analogy is a tired way to get your point across, but I'm going to do it anyway. Rooting for a console manufacturer is a lot like pulling for your favorite sports team; I know this from experience. You laugh gleefully when your chosen idol succeeds and when your nastiest rival fails, and analyze every element so deeply that truth is blurred into an unrecognizable mess of nothingness. It's delightful chaos.

But here's where things become problematic. If you're a hard-nosed console loyalist, or a blind sports fanatic, you can paint yourself into a corner of bitterness. Yes, you may root for Sony to sell more consoles, or Nintendo to deliver their magic once again, but if you're ignoring everything else, than you're only hurting yourself. Just like how I eventually came to appreciate LeBron James even though I'm a Pacers apologist, it's important for console fans to not limit themselves to one platform.

There are tons of great games out there. Don't let your dogmatism prevent your from enjoying them all.

Make console love, not war - Carolyn Petit

Look, I've been as guilty of vehemently supporting one console over another as anyone. At the advent of the glorious 16-bit era, my parents weren't going to purchase both a Sega Genesis and a Super Nintendo for me. I had a Genesis and that was that. I was still an immature youth when I first experienced the charm and beauty of Super Mario World on a friend's Super Nintendo, and the delight of playing that timeless masterpiece was tarnished by a sinking feeling in my heart as I knew that I was stuck with a console that would never be home to Mario's latest grand adventure. My reaction to this sad reality was not a reasonable acknowledgment of the fact that there were good experiences available on both consoles, but a zealous championing of the Genesis as the one true console of the 16-bit era. I didn't even want to remotely acknowledge the possibility that I had made the "wrong" choice, so I loudly trumpeted the viewpoint that I had made the only right one.

Now that I'm older and (slightly) more mature, I recognize this mindset as youthful folly. Every console has a good deal to offer, and although it can be frustrating to not have access to all of the great experiences out there because we can't afford to stock our entertainment centers with every console on the market, the truth is that there isn't a reasonable basis for trashing one major console, and if you pour a lot of energy into criticizing one machine and those who enjoy it, I might suspect that you're trying to distract yourself from the fact that you're bitter or insecure about your own choices. I take my motto in these matters from my friend, former GameSpot staffer Carrie Gouskos, who famously said, "Make console love, not war."

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Be vocal, be passionate, but don't be a dick - Mark Walton

I get the fanboy thing. I mean, if I've just spent too much money on a shiny black box, I want it to be the best damn box in the universe. I want it to fire rainbows at my face while I boot up a game, and have unicorns magically float out of the controller, wish me good luck, and gently kiss me on the forehead before I dive into an online battle. And if I finally find a box that does that, well, of course I want to share such good fortune with people I know.

I like being passionate about the things I love, and I love hearing from people who are passionate. It's those people that wait in line to buy the latest console, pre-order the needlessly over-the-top special editions of games, and go online to upload fan fiction and artwork of their favorite characters and universes. That is where console fanboys can triumph, and to those people, I salute you. The day I'm unlucky enough to not write about games, I'll be right there with you.

The trouble happens when that passion turns sour, and there's not really any need for it. I'm all for an open, heated debate on the merits of 1080p vs. 900p, or why the Xbox One UI sucks (seriously, it does), but when it gets personal, or turns into hate-speech, it all gets a bit silly. At the end of the day it's a big plastic box with some circuit boards in it. Be vocal, be passionate, but don't be a dick.

Dare to be dumb - Martin Gaston

Yes, the console war is dumb. But so is buying a hundred games in a Steam sale that I'll never play, watching all eight seasons of Dexter, and drinking so much Coke that I'm almost certainly going to end up with diabetes. There are a lot of dumb things in the world, and each and every one of us partakes in our fair share.

Still, there are a few important things to remember. Firstly, it's not weird that somebody wants to ensure they've invested their $500-odd dollars wisely, because most people aren't going to be able to afford all three consoles right now. Second, the battle between the PS4 and the Xbox One is equivalent to a drunken scuffle outside of a dodgy nightclub compared to the all-out nuclear war of the SNES and the Genesis, and the Genesis will always, always be coolest. Never forget. And finally, the fact that it's fun to add a bit of theatrics to the marketplace battles of the the gaming companies doesn't mean you're allowed to be a complete and utter douche about it.

Long Live These Console Wars - Randolph Ramsay

No, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a fan of one particular console. After all, tribalism is in our natures. You see this everywhere and every day, from people cheering for their favorite sporting teams, to showing their political allegiances, to liking one type of mobile phone OS over another. It's Marvel vs DC, it's Coke vs Pepsi, it's Pokemon vs Digimon. It's who we all are--we choose a side, and we stick with it. Why should gaming consoles be any different?

Of course, you can still be a jerk about showing your console allegiances. But at its very core, being an Xbox/PlayStation/Nintendo/PC fan--and being open about it--is nothing to be ashamed of.

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Game of Consoles - Cindy Tang

In the Game of Thrones of console wars, no one is dying, weddings are relatively fun, and sneering narcissists are the bane of everyone's existence.

Being so passionate about a plastic box of chips and wires seems like all sorts of first-world-problem, Purple-Wedding-decadent ridiculousness. Anyone who limits their options is doing themselves a disservice. To want a competitor to fail is economically shortsighted. If fewer companies come out alive in this "console war," the likelihood of a healthy gaming marketplace slims down significantly--and rarely is an unregulated oligopoly beneficial to the consumer. It hurts you, the consumer, when you align yourself with a brand because of loyalty rather than product quality or lifestyle compatibility. Competition is healthy; a console "war" is not.

On the other hand, people are shelling out half a grand for these plastic boxes so I can understand where the defensiveness stems from. But passionate debate should be anchored by decorum and mutual respect--after all, we want every single company to produce the best products possible for all gamers. So when deciding to sound off on a public forum, remember that we're all on the same side of the market. Bottom line: Don't be the Joffrey of the console war.

I don't want to set the world on fire - Justin Haywald

Console wars are harmless fun, and you've got to admit that watching people completely lose their minds on message boards has a certain appeal. Some nights I just like to crack open a frosty beverage, then delve into the comments section in a dark corner of the site for a morbid evening of reading.

Strong opinions and passion are what drive our world, and it doesn't matter how crazy the console arguments get, they ultimately make for better products. The console and game creators work to appease their frothing fanbase and allay attacks from their detractors, and those self-same fans go to extremes to make sure their voice is heard and echoed by as many potential supporters as possible.

Now if we only we could turn that same kind of energy towards something really big, like ending world hunger. Maybe after the PS5 and Xbox One Two come out.


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Why is PC not included?

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"console wars" not "system wars" , PC always win by default, as its a platform on which you can do everything. buts its mostly regarded a work tool. not a gaming plaform.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Please, we dont treat people like that on gamespot.

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@allyouneedisluv PC is in league of it own and as it is not subject to the lock in of hard ware so there is no fine line between one gen and the next

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console wars well never sadly ever end i doubt there well ever be peace T-T I WAS THERE MAN HOW MANY MORE HAVE TO DIE T-T xD

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I believe the console war will not be won just by hardware alone, it may determine by software. You can have the most powerful hardware going but it will nothing more than that if there is no real games to play on it. Theoretically speaking Xbox One can win by continuously putting out hit after hit even if it's specs are not excellent and the same goes for PS4.

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I've been console warring since Atari 2600, and will continue to war.

Playstation for life.

However...when it comes to destroying pc beggars...consoles unite.

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@xboxdone74Go back to your little forum and keep eating GOTY's.

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People tend to be insecure about their own purchases, they want to feel like they made the best decision with their money. So when people claim something else is on top they feel they have to defend themselves, they hate thinking they wasted their money.

I agree with what was stated in the article by some, i think if the people are sensible in their opinions then having a constructive dialog is always a good thing. There's a reason why i bought a PS4 over an Xbox One and i can easily articulate why that is. It's the company cheerleaders i don't get, you'd think they were on the companies payroll.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> You are spot on with that, and they (the cheerleaders) are the only thing that absolutely turns me off from the PS4.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> I've read several people say they'll not buy a PS4 because of the fanbase, and that's the most pathetic and ridiculous excuse I've heard or read. Do you let people run the rest of your life aswell? What you watch and what you listen to? It makes me wonder if you are of the same age group as "fanboys", as they are immature, arrgoant and opinionated, because you're bothered by their opinions and don't see past them. That indicates that you feel you're on same equal level as them. An objective adult would completely ignore this type of behavior and easily feel above this fanism.

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That just means you are an xbox fanboy. Because if you re really unbiased you wouldnt care what other people say. You would get the system that suits you best. That's like saying "My favorite car is a Mustang but I'm not getting a Mustang because Ford owners hate on Chevy Camaros."

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How did Sony get owned last gen? At the point Xbox 360 and PS3 are neck in neck and PS3 arguably has the better exclusives.

So again, how exactly did they get owned?

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Exactly. Sony fans rabidly attack anything posted about the X1. Its really them trying to get some get back after getting owned last gen. I say that as a long time PS fan.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> That is not what stops me, it is the lack of games. Like I said below, I have better looking $400 decorations on my shelf.


I determine what I buy, by what suits me best. That is why I returned my PS4 and am content with my Xbox One and Wii U.

When there is a game on the PS4 worth having, I will get one.


A better scenario is "you are what you surround yourself with" or "If you hang around with trash, you will start to stink".


Go look on some PS4 articles. The X1 fanboys aren't in there full force like the PS4 fanboys are at every X1 article. I try not to associate with that.

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This article was written to make the people think theres a war feel stupid. You simply cant afford all so you judge. Stupid is in our nature and we all cant be smart. You dont put this much into buying a car but for a game yes. Most dont have a car but you paid or had your parents pay 400 to 500. Then you dont use common knowledge in your arguement on the so called war. This is not a game war. Its a poor peoples war. When they spoke of the uproar at E3 when they said the price of the ps4. That should have told you all something there. How is there so much talk about what you dont like when you dont have and not more talk about what you do like about your system of choice. You cant tell me what xb1 do or dont because i own one. Tell me what the ps4 do to make me want one other than mlb because right now is all i want a ps4 for. I dont want to here everybody has one 7 million sold because thats so 1st grade.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Exactly! But like you said, not everyone can be in the "smart" classification. So rather than intelligently provide information or a good argument, they rather dumb down and spew uninformative insults that eventually lead to nowhere!

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Where did the Wii U come from? Had no idea it was even in the running.


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I think console wars would come to an end the day our good old friend from north korea - Kim Jong Un does a ball dance with Obama in a periwinkle gown. :)

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Yes it's STUPID!!! Buy the system or systems that have the games and additional features that fit your taste....PERIOD!

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I will answer your question if you answer why the Wii U is in the discussion?

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Zelda winning is as equal to saying COD Ghost was GOTY. Both developers can send out polished games but offer nothing new.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Same here, but many can't afford to have all opportunities.


Funny as it mat be, I have had more fun with my Wii U so far than I have with either the X1 or PS4. That will continue when Mario Kart comes out too!

Best of all, I got my Wii U from a crying fanboy (that didn't want it) for only $150!


When a good game comes for the PS4, I will have one again, until then, it has been returned to the store. Maybe with a new Twisted Metal or Uncharted (unless the loss of many of the devs and writers ruin it too), it will then be worth having. I have better things to look at on my shelf besides a PS4.

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The fact of the matter is Nintendo is still a major console producer although its popularity id decreasing rapidly. Plus I have personally seen some Wii U fanboys in the forums so I guess it was included for them. And anyways by hinting at Zelda I meant to say that there are Wii U exclusives which still rock(At least IMO). There is just no way PS4 or X Box can give me the fun I have playing donkey kong country, or mario kart, so yeah its still in competition.

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Does it hurt discussions?


Discussions?


On this website?


LOL

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Mark Walton, Martin Gaston, Randolph Ramsay and Justin Haywald spoke some sense, the rest.... meeeh.

(Also, SNES > Genesis)

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Not much of a war. wii U is already dead and xBoner is getting stomped. Funny how gamespot downplays the console war when microsofty is losing. Kinda shows you who their chief advertiser is.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Please enlighten us how GameSpot is conspiring against other consoles when X Box One is under-performing?

I mean why? just why can't it be a coincidence? And if they were all that corrupt(taking illicit bribes and stuff) Why the heck would they give zelda the title for GOTY 13?

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Ignore this child above you as he is obviously a 11 year old (forced) fanboy since he can't afford to be anything other than such. . .

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Gamespot“s biased behavior is there with some editors. A fanboy masked as a journalist...

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Right!


How dare they have their own opinions....


I mean...the NERVE.

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Gee you mean GS is being controlled by actual human beings with opinions and various tastes? WHAT A TWIST!

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >>Read something about journalism. Then check some editors again. Opinions aren“t some statements usually found in Gamespot“s articles. One editor to check in Gamespot: Mark Walton. Really bad technical behavior.

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There is nothing unanimously-agreed-upon about "journalism", despite what there is to read about this rather loosely-defined profession, if it can even be called that.

Really, you are resorting to weasel words, e.g. "read something about (insert something here)".

With that said, do define "bad technical behavior" and whatever measurable standards which you would to describe that with.

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