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Comparing Metal Gear Solid 4 to Ground Zeroes is "nonsense," says Kojima

Ground Zeroes is an open-world game and vastly different than MGS4, Hideo Kojima says.

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It would be silly to directly compare Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots because the games are vastly different, Hideo Kojima has said. Posting on Twitter last night, Kojima said it it "nonsense" to compare his latest effort to 2008's PlayStation 3 game because because Ground Zeroes is an open-world game, while MGS4 was not.

Ground Zeroes is also expected to be substantially shorter than MGS4 because it is a prequel to Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain and not fully its own game.

Kojima also responded to criticism about Ground Zeroes after publisher Konami released a handful of images comparing the current- and next-generation versions of the game yesterday. He said the Xbox One and PS4 versions will indeed be visually superior, but stressed that the developer's visual style should remain consistent across console generations.

"I published comparison images of consoles since I get so many questions. Once I said the contents & controls can be equally amused by player as we carefully adjusted, people say 'then next-gen is meaningless.' Well, I want people to play nextgen if they were able to buy, and for those who couldn't, play current-gen version as it is indeed [multiplatform]."

"Next-gen looks better because of its hi-spec, but what I want you to feel is the point the photo-realistic image we pursue in Fox Engine. Fox Engine made it even the current-gen look as good as next-gen," he added.

Finally, Kojima said the already announced Ground Zeroes comparison video showing off the visual differences between console generations might be published sometime today. We'll include that video here or in a new story if it does indeed arrive later today.

Ground Zeroes launches on March 18 for Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 4. Sony will release a special Ground Zeroes limited-run PS4 console in Japan.

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My eyes are far from being 20/20 so I don't care how it looks. What I do care about, however, is how you try to rip off people with a 2 hr demo.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> to be fair, if you go to youtube and search for speedruns. maybe you will see less than 5 hours gameplay even for mgs 4. bigboss emblem.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> its 20$ with side missions

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<< LINK REMOVED >>The game is 5 hours long if you count all missions, and all that means around 20% of total game completition. Only the main mission lasts 90 minutes to 2 hours.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> It's not a demo; it's a full game, just at a lower price.

The campaign is 2 hours long; the game's content aside from the campaign wasn't included in that time.

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I feel really sorry for all those people who are outdated with the news of this game and still believe the game is 2 hours long. Let me give you a hand: the game is 5 hours long if you count all missions, and that means around 20% of total game completition. Only the main mission lasts 90 minutes to 2 hours.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Missions don't mean anything, the length of a game is determined by the campaign, not extra missions.

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@Mr_Big_Boss @Sheik2 The Elder Scrolls games are shorter than hell then.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Even then, their story missions alone take hours upon hours.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> You keep saying that, but you don't seem to have a source or any other public info to back that up.


Also, how can I complete all the missions and still only be 20% done with the game? Am I supposed to turn over every rock looking for hidden ammo packs? Look for easter eggs hidden in debris or the brick formations of buildings?


Fact of the matter is, even at 5 hours, $30-40 is a hefty price for a game with no multiplayer and likely little to no replay value, regardless of how good it looks or how open it is. Even Deadpool was longer, and I couldn't muster up the enthusiasm for it when it hit $10. I like MGS and Kojima, but this one's just gonna sit in my GameFly queue unless it drops to $5 or so pretty quickly.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> meh its like buying a DLC which go for around that much and don't have that much content to boot.

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So Ground Zeroes is open world but still "substantially shorter" than it's linear predecessor............................WHAT!?!?!!?

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<< LINK REMOVED >> ...because open world = longer? GZ is shorter but TPP is longer. Sleep well.

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It is nonsense, one is a game and the other is a demo.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Do a little research. The people saying the game is 2 hours long are wrong.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> No, they're both games.

Don't confuse a short game for a demo.

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Funny how no one is outraged that what should be a free demo on PS+ or XB Live is costing money at retail.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Because it's already been confirmed that it is not a demo.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> You mean everyone?

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Of course its a different game, you have replaced the perverted but cool snake with an edgier angrier twattier snake.

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Octocamo pleaseeeeeeeeee u wieners!

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I want to know how big is the world, how many primary missions there are and how many side missions there are. If game informer finished this game in 2 hours maybe they did not do the side missions, or if there were any.

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<< LINK REMOVED >>The game is 5 hours long if you count all missions, and all that means around 20% of total game completition. Only the main mission lasts 90 minutes to 2 hours.

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No octocamo, no buy.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Octocamo wasn't even that great. Snake was clearly visible most of the time, especially without face camo. It only proved how ungodly idiotic the guards were. Some special elite guards those women soldiers turned out to be. Couldn't even see Snake's outline from two feet away. Now, if the game actually rendered Snake's camo the same way it did with the bosses and hell, even Mk. II, I could understand it, but it wasn't a very believable mechanic the way it was.

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Of course comparing MGS4 and MGS: GZ is non-sense, one I can get for under $20 and lasts for more than 2 hours...

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Right, I mean why would you compare sequels? tTat's just ludicrous.

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i would agreed to Kojima if he says the current price for Ground Zero is non-sense and is should be 50 to 70% less

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From what I hear, Ground Zeroes is basically like the Tanker chapter in 2 and the Virtuous Mission in 3, right?

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<< LINK REMOVED >>The game is 5 hours long if you count all missions, and all that means around 20% of total game completition. Only the main mission lasts 90 minutes to 2 hours. So no. Neither the tanker nor virtuous mission had that kind of content.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >>The thing is I didn't pay an extra 30 bucks for either of those missions. I won't do it now.

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His ego was out of hand before, and seems even worse now.

I believe Metal Gear 4 could have been amazing if it had been edited to flow better,

but Hideo's creative control hampered the experience and made the story flow in

very strange ways.

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If you don't want people to compare the games, Don't call it Metal Gear Solid. People will always look at the Previous game and compare it to what is supposed to be better about the next.

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So what if it's an open world game? Is the GAMEPLAY that much different from other Metal Gear games? No?


Going open world doesn't mean your game is magically a completely new experience Kojima. Actually it makes it sound like you're setting up excuses for when people figure out that it SUCKS.

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Next Gen = leaving footprints in mud. Make it so Fox Engine!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Is that very different than leaving footprints in snow?

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >>Only when there's an exclamation point above someone's head involved.

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I don't remember anyway saying that those two games were similar. I do remember people being angry ( and rightly so) about the price of ground zeros given the short length of the game.

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Everyone who isn't dumb already knew that. I guess sometimes you gotta take the role of Captain Obvious for the masses

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yeah but the real "nonsense" is GZ's price

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<< LINK REMOVED >> It would, unless you understand the real lenght of the game beside the main mission.

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The Fox Engine does indeed scale well, it seems. I wonder how much of the environment can be interacted or destroyed.

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This article would have been nice if it was about PS4 vs Xbox One comparison wise but this is just pathetic what Kojima is saying. Whos said anything about MGS4 vs Ground Zero anyways?

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I like how you used a last-gen screen shot at the top of the article.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> I'm glad you rike it.

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