Carmack 'not all that excited' about next-gen

Pushing forward is "NOT" necessarily for Consoles, since it doesn' have Backward Compatibility, simply because when Consoles pushing forward they can't go backward.

Pushing forward is necessarily for PC, for obvious reasons, it's open / multi-faceted platform: since it does support backward compatibility, and next-gen capability (and many other things.)

Just admit it, Consoles people really want next-gen.

they just doesn't want losing their current gaming library.

that's the problem with gaming consoles: lack of backward compatible,

and that's what made Consoles suck, and dragging PC to their hole.

PC elitist mad,

Consoles people content with what they have,

Developers (Crytek, DICE, Epic.) that specialized on Game Engine become "annoyed" with current stale system,

Some rain-coating the majority of Consoles people (just like what John Carmack did.)

See.. the Wii went and added motion controls, but how many games did mr. Carmack make for the Wii? How often did he utilize the 'new experience' that it offered? Simply put, he didn't and most developers had problems making games that utilized the Wii's motion controls in a natural way. Yes it out sold, but I think wii sports was the main selling feature of the Wii. More power is what the industry needs, innovation is more in the addons (kinect, move, and such)

really i could careless about motion, and i'm tired of hearing that the Nintendo out-sold everyone else... the real reason why Nintendo did so well is because non-gamers were looking to lose weight, so they bought the system... didn't buy any games for it, just the fitness stuff... i got a niece that has the system, and the only game she has is guitar hero...

"Carmack said Microsoft and Sony are too focused on boosting technical power, when they should instead be working on building new experiences for future consoles."Is this guy living in 2006 or something?

Current gen consoles graphics cards are about 25 times weaker than an average PC graphics card, and he wants new consoles which will last another 6 years and aren't even released yet, to have the same weak hardware of current consoles?

Erm, how stupid can someone be? I thought he's a "genius"

So is Carmack going to back up his own words? Or does he mean he wants someone else to build the experiences he is talking about?

"Carmack went on to claim that current-generation hardware is capable of supporting anything developers can think up."

Yeah, that's wrong. The Unreal Engine 4 demo makes that abundantly clear....

I'm sure Carmack will change his tune after the next-gen consoles are released.

Carmack knows what he's talking about the last good game he made was Quake I II and III.

this is why the PC will always be king

When was the last time Carmack did something worth getting excited about? Hint: Clinton was President.

I agree with what he's saying about power and the current generation being more or less capable. But to imply that power is "all" that Sony and MS are doing is absurd. Has he not seen what MS are doing with Windows 8/tablets/phones? Has he not seen Kinect and the possibilities it represents? I think you've been living under a rock for too long, Mr Carmack.

sorry, but i don't really care what this guy has to say. he is only saying it because i think he has lost his touch in creating game engines and games themselves. his engines always come out years after unreal's engine and they never look or perform any better, and sometimes looks worse. same with his games. they take forever to come out, but when they do, they are only average games that don't look or play any better than all the hundreds of other average games out there. this guy is stuck in the 90's. it is time for new consoles to come out with it's new and powerful technologies. ether get up with the times, or get the heck out.

I'm with Carmack on this. I play many "older" games on my PC and I'm cool with it.

From Fallout 3 to Far Cry to Unreal Tournament 2004 to the original Deus Ex (1999). Fallout 3 runs damn good on medium settings. The others run damn good on MAX settings look damn good to me too.

Not every gamer, PC or console, is a graphics whore. If everyone were a graphics whore, sites like GOG and Gamersgate wouldn't be as successful as they are.

Carmack is just saying current tech is strong enough to make just about any game you want so its not really that important to make a more expensive system any time soon. Just focus on making good games or innovative new ideas would help games a lot more then another xbox with better graphics.

The PC looks amazing compared to current games running on a 360 or PS3. Its night and day between battlefield 3 on the pc to home consoles. Its time for an upgrade!!!!!

most of you guys in here that call yourselves console gamer consumers have focused on the graphics department.

i know that's the main topic of this article, and most don't want to stray from a given topic, but is that all you desire?

if that is the case, Epic is right to push M$ and sony for better hardware.

Since even current high end PC video cards are already guaranteed to be MUCH more powerful than either next console from Sony and MS I don't think whatever they put out is going to "inspire" better games just from processing power. The consoles will surely be relatively powerful, but not mindblowing because if at release they were as powerful as the latest gpu card you can put into PCs then the consoles would be crazy expensive.

The Playstation 4 and Xbox 720 are going to inspire developers to create better games? That is the whole idea otherwise the industry would still be at Atari 2600. Technology does advance if only to inspire the "experiences" Carmack alludes to?

Carmack thinks next generation will be a "Car Wreck"

john carmack doesn't like ps4 or 720 and will stick with the best console ever.

IMO, the gaming industry has bigger issues to worry about than aging tech.

1.) Nickle and dime DLCs

2.) Intrusive DRM

3.) Milking franchises

4.) Foregoing innovation and originality for tried & true

These problems won't solve itself just because of next-gen.

I`m not all that excited for his games, so it works out great. Doom 3 and Rage were trash.

I'd really like to have those VR glasses he's been making become widespread. No need for big monitors and TVs...

This coming from the guy who helped create Rage, a game that has been out for nearly a year and is STILL experiencing heavy texture issues for the PC. Take your own advice before telling other companies what they should and shouldn't be doing.

Says the guy who made Doom 3 in 2004 with exactly the same gameplay as the original 1992 Doom, but with better graphics...

Max Payne 3 kinda sums up next gen for me. It looked fantastic, escpecially the violence but that was it. There was nothing else to the game. We're just going to end up with movies that you have to shoot things to get to the end

As soon as publishers, developers, and most importantly GAMERS stop masturbating over graphics, I will start to see hope in the industry. Until then enjoy your Call of Duty 17 with a slightly higher resolution.

He's right about developers having full freedom with the current hardware that we have, but at what cost? With the difficulties to oppose the limitations of the hardware to make games like Uncharted 2/3, game development takes a lot longer than it should and it takes more employees to get the game past the limitations, causing development to be more expensive than it should compared to making your game on brand-new hardware.

Im tired of the same old too, but don t worry, MS will save next gen with the augmented reality experience, Ar glasses + Kinect v2= Jobe´s full immersion (The lawnmowerman movie from 92).

i wonder if he is excited for Wii U then. being not much more powerful if at all compared to 360/ps3, but bringing in both motion control, standard buttons, and a second, non-fixed position screen.

John Carmack couldn't care less about "next-gen", because it is already on PC, anyone that played Rage with full AA (@32x) at 60 frames, it was just incredible, I didn't knew the buildings on the background were really rendered until I changed my AA to 4 or 8 to see the difference, you cannot see a single jaggie on the game @ 32x yet the game doesnt get sloppy as Crysis 2 or Metro 2033, on consoles it's the same, fluid graphics with Rage, sloppy with C2 and Metro.

When you create an engine, you must optimize it for the machines you have NOW, I think most devs could do an engine that required some other vid cards and proccessors that are not yet created but will exist.

BUT as of RIGHT NOW, there isn't a game out there, that requires an upgrade, Metro 2033 (best/most demanding pc graphics) was released on consoles too (well at least for the xbox 360), and it isn't that relevant since the experience is a rather common one.

New consoles 2013/2014 @ $500-600 or $400 if they are in a good mood for what?, COD?, FIFA 14?, Killzone 4?, Halo 5?.....lol, yeah, I'm excited too...