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@michaelray1284 @Epsilons I totally hate AMD GPU, they got hot really quick, the driver are just bad, many game have problem with AMD GPU, plus SteamOS doesn't support AMD GPU very well. They are cheaper but you have what you pay for. I'm all on the Green Team. GeForce Experience, Shadow Play, Game Stream, H.264 encoding (NVENC), etc. NVIDIA GPU are just WAY better honestly...
@Epsilons That's not actually cheaper unless you already have an extra copy of Windows 8 you can use. The site says "You can install a License you already have at home or find it for free on Torrent website." which is basically saying if you don't already have a copy you can steal one. Now, I'm the first one to say that Windows is overpriced and I'm anxiously awaiting Steam OS, but the small footprint of the Alpha and the fact that it comes with a legit copy of a $129 OS are attractive to me. Even if I end up switching to Steam OS down the road I could still use that Windows license on another machine (I think...).
I'm waiting for the reviews to come in, but Alienware makes great stuff and more importantly developers will probably start to target this specific hardware for optimization the same way they target consoles today. I could see a development house internally saying "let's make this run really great on the base level Alienware Alpha and then if someone has the higher hardware models or better components in any PC, it'll just be even better. I'm not 100% sure the system can pull off 1080p/60fps on most modern games but I'll bet with some optimization that's a reasonable target. I certainly hope so - I abandoned PC gaming because I got tired of new games demanding more and more hardware to play with decent graphics unless you were willing to sacrifice framerate. I'm not. So I switched to console gaming several years ago but am seriously considering the Alpha or some other Steam Box to get back in on some of the amazing sales PC gamers get.
@timothyt @Epsilons Indeed the Alienware Alpha is a good piece of hardware.
But have you noticed i'm capable of building the same specs, With a Better CPU (3.5Ghz My Rig VS 2.9Ghz Alpha) while still being fully upgradable (GPU upgradable) and at a full 100$ cheaper with a legit version of the free SteamOS Alchemist BETA currently available.
Alpha will get better over time but I recommend waiting for 2015 edition with probably a GTX 960M and SteamOS and the GabeNewell PAD (Steam VALVE Controller), it will be priced cheaper too because you don't pay for Windows License with SteamOS inside the Box.
For 550$, you can build a custom rig with a Intel Core i3-4150 @ 3.5Ghz, 8GB DDR3 1600mhz, GeForce GTX 750 Ti, 2TB Seagate Barracuda HDD.... Way better than the Alpha 550$ offer, unfortunately!
But the Alienware Alpha will beat this custom system the day it will ship with SteamOS (price drop) and the day you will have the option to not have the "forced" XBOX360 controller with the Alpha bundle (another price drop).
My Guess, the Alpha will sell for 399.99$ next year when bundled with SteamOS Alchemist and no controller. The Alpha might also come with a new GPU next year (GTX 960M or GTX 950M)
Geez, just buy a micro ATX case and motherboard and you have the exact same thing. But then you can add your own memory, cpu, gpu and it would be cheaper, fully upgradable, and more powerful than this junk. It's like for the laziest consumers that buy Lunchables rather just buying their own cheese and crackers. Well there is always a market for lazy consumers.
It's basically a laptop. I wonder why people ever purchased laptops specifically for gaming...but this is a laptop plugged into your TV. Consoles might have weaker hardware, but it was custom. I'd wait for AMD to make 20nm or smaller APUs before this vision is a reality. Otherwise just build Steam Machines with GTX 970s. At it's price that card may very well kill consoles if someone packages a system right. I don't mean outright, but it could lead to outpricing consoles and making them obsolete, especially if an OS is consumerized enough to be a powerful entertainment device, but also useful like an iPad with apps.
I would love to see someone mod this and water cool and OC the GPU on it. I bet you could push some serious power out of the mobile GPU with some proper cooling.
it's an interesting platform, if we consider you can upgrade it, maybe even personalized it a little, that's far superior compared to standard consoles, as long as the softwares they put in it keeps up and remains compatible, even if you have to spend more money you'd be able to obtain a considerable superior result in many ways, not sure if this will work out, but I think it deserves a shot
It seems like a pretty good price for the hardware. I don't think you could build an equivalent PC for much less than this if you count the OS and controller. I'm not sure of the quality of the 860m since it was built for moblie. I play Shadow of Mordor on my 760 with everything turned up to max, including the Ultra textures. So I'd guess it'd be pretty good...
It really seems like a nice piece of kit. I don't see what people are complaining about.
@fieryermine Price the parts with micro atx cases/motherboard at newegg. Ya you might pay $500 but it's only slightly higher and it's totally upgradeable and probably has better cooling. Alienwares are notorious for cramming too much in a small space and it overheating cooking everything inside over time. I also didn't see a hard drive inside this thing, Maybe its a good deal if it has an SSD drive.
@YOURMOM204 @fieryermine Yah, I think mine is 2GB's as well. I encountered a pretty big slow down when it started raining in the game once, but otherwise frame rates are pretty good. You should try it out and see how it works with your system. It's not like it'll make your computer explode or anything. I think the 6GB minimum thing is pretty overblown. On the other side, I don't think it makes a huge difference in the quality of the visuals.
@YOURMOM204 I had a bit of a slowdown during a rain sequence, but otherwise my frame rate was pretty good. My card is a 2gb card. You should go ahead a try it yourself, it's not like your computer will blow up or anything. Honestly, the main issue is that I don't think the visuals are improved all that much.
@El_Zaggy @Daian For anyone willing to spend the money that would actually be an awesome idea! They'd be able to use Steams new streaming tech to use the power of their custom system in the living room, while offering multi tasking capabilities bordering ridiculous levels! Though that would be far too costly for me.
Its so small its cute. I would buy it if I wasn't consumed by how bad dell products are. their service is horrible, their computers are usually comes with adapters that are very expensive to buy.
@evil_m3nace What "adapters" are you talking about...?
Service is a different story. Micheal Dell is back taking over Dell, so who knows he may have a separate team of technical support for the Alienware/Alpha console.
This Alienware Alpha is just one of (hopefully) several new micro pc's that will be coming onto the market in the near future. I consider it a gateway drug to the hard stuff for current console owners not sure of what they're getting into. My first pc was a $400 HP Pavilion. It was a piece of crap that I bought because it was cheap. After the games I wanted to play dropped to 15 fps I realized I needed a good video card. Once I opened that case and started upgrading components I was hooked on the hard stuff. That was 20 years and 5 or 6 builds ago. Long live the open-source hardware pc!
Even PC gaming enthusiasts should be happy that they're trying to reach out to the general consumers with easy PC (heh) gaming hardware. This eases the entry barrier to PCs and their success can mean better PC gaming support in the future.
One thing i'd worry about is the heat and temperature control with the tiny box.
It's marketed as a console, not a PC. It's a game console for the general audience.
Personally I'm glad the GPU cannot be upgradable, that would cause headaches with "less" tech-savy consumers destroying it. It's the same with a laptop, you can't upgrade the integrated laptop GPU.
It's still very flexible enough that you can upgrade many of the components (Ram, Hard-drive, CPU). Much better buy than a PS4, xbox1 and smaller.
@Kunakai @KealGSeo Everything is pretty much plug now and play not really hard to upgrade. For gaminf the GPU is the most important only reason I can see why not is becuase you would have to change the power supply. It is an under powered PC better have a lot of good exclusive steam console only games.
@megakick @Kunakai @KealGSeo I don;t think it's under-powered for the asking price. Check their page, you get Windows and a 360 pad, not to mention a tiny tiny form factor.
And yeah, building a PC isn't as difficult as many believe but it does require some research (or did last I built one). I agree with you though, too many are apprehensive about building their own rigs because they believe they need extensive technical knowledge, but you don't need to explain that to me.
I'd be happy to recommend this to anyone whose only barrier to PC gaming is the price point and construction. That wouldn't stop me from encouraging anyone who's willing to build their own rig to do so though.
@jellyman68 @Talavaj There is nearly 4000 games on steam, only about 12~ percent of those support game pads, let's not ignore how the fact that game supports a gamepad does not mean that playing with it will be a particularly enjoyable experience.
This is especially true with games that are inherently designed around mouse+keyboard control scheme, which you know are mostly the unique PC games that are worth playing.
And those that play better with a gamepad are usually the bad console ports that you would get superior experience from if played on a proper console anyway.
@Talavaj You seem pretty out of touch with the goal of gamepad gaming then. Of course it's not going to work with a game that absolutely requires a keyboard. That's not the point.
If consoles are doing so well with only a gamepad, then this can do fine too, seeing as it's specifically marketed as a "console" and as such will be compatible with the same types of games.
Just because custom rig PC's and keyboard/mouse is clearly superior doesn't mean the casuals can't have this.
Finally a compact PC that is accessible to the general public for gaming. Its about freaking time. I was getting tired of the massive ugly behemoths that have become the norm in PC gaming. Props to Alienware and great pricing to.
@grin89 Peter said he needed to apply new thermal paste before he put it back together during the video. It'd be funny to hear how he burnt it out because of such a simple mistake though.
@Kunakai @grin89 Well, the video is full of jump cuts, obviously he wasn't going to make us watch him do all that work. The cpu/sink would have been cleaned and pasted, along with the screws refastened off screen.