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I knew a game like this would not run at 1080p and 60fps on any console. I said Sony reporting that was a simple mistake and I had so many Sony fanboys disagreeing with me and claiming that it would run at 60fps and 1080p. Those people sure do look silly now. They tried to rub it in the faces of PC gamers and Xbots, but they were just being ignorant. They don't seem to have any clue about hardware and what is actually feasible.

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@kalipekona unless they dramatically downgraded the graphics, which would of sucked!

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@kalipekona DIdn't bother me, I was buying the Wii U version. :)

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@amk11 @kalipekona


Good. You're doing it right. Nobody should be playing on consoles if they want the most cutting edge visuals. Expecting cutting edge 'next gen' visuals along with 1080p, 60fps and great image quality on consoles is unrealistic.


That doesn't mean that the graphics won't be good or enjoyable, it just means people need to calibrate their expectations a little more realistically.

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@kalipekona @amk11 I'm just buying it where I want, Like I intended :)


I have Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros 3DS to keep me occupied through the summer. Winter/Fall comes around I'll grab up Watch_Dogs and Smash Bros U, Plus for me, realistically the gamepad is just another reason not to use my phone for so called "extra features". I'm still expecting something like 720p native, not too graphically bad, but better than the PS3/360 versions.

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amk11

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Hah, so what? Every version of the game on consoles, except the PS3 version will scale up to 1080p anyways. I'm still buying the game on my Wii U

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but my question is, are the machines incappable of reaching true HD 1080p 60Fps, or is Ubisoft unable to make this work? I seem to have seen a few games that made it to 1080p on the PS4, so why can't Watchdogs?

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@devilscry I'd say Ubisoft. They have history of making games with very unequal visual quality. Last Ghost Recon comes to mind - I had to make much more sacrifices in that game's visuals than with Battlefield 3 or Far Cry 3, even if game didn't look as good even fully maxed.

Beside capabilities of specific developers' team, the other question is how much love did PS4 and XBO versions of WD have received; let's face it, they are likely to sell less copies than any other platform, considering how many new consoles are there in wild. Why would they receive more optimization resources than other platforms?

Then, current state of development tools for both PS4 and XBO. Platforms are still young.

Personally, I have no doubts that both PS4 and XBO can do sustainable fps at 1080p, PS4 a bit easier. I know what I can get from my old 6870 1GB graphics card and base clock i5 CPU. I know what should be possible from PS4 graphics. If it doesn't happen, it is down to developers being lazy and going for "good enough" instead of "best we can get out of it". Many developers did the same on PC for ever, and consoles are getting powerful enough to let developers do lazy. On PS3, being lazy was recipe for disaster. On PS4, being lazy can still be good enough.

In the meantime, we will see real worth of these consoles in exclusives, and realistically, they have proven themselves capable. Forza 5 looks amazing and runs amazing - I do have complains on offered content, but technically, game is hard to fault. Killzone is, IMHO, one of the best - if not the best looking FPS I have played on any platform, PC included. Second Son, even if it was released before Watchdog, runs in 1080p and looks great, while being the same open world style of game as WD. Same for AC4 (at least PS4 version, not sure about XBO).

Eventually, I would not mind if consoles have R9 290 or GTX780-class graphics inside and i7 CPUs... but those would never reach mass-market levels like actual ones will. It is simple reality. For what they are, they are fine, and once exclusives start showing in numbers, these PC-only snobs will evaporate with their smartass comments. In the meantime, I will enjoy my PC, PS3 and PS4. R9 280X coming this weekend - Planetside 2 managed to slow my 6870 to below 20fps (even if just for a moment), time to upgrade :)

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kalipekona

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Do you not understand how it works? Yes, they are capable of outputting at 1080p and 60fps, just as the PS3 and 360 were. It's simply a matter of trade-offs. They could make every single game run at 1080p and 60fps if they wanted, but gamers wouldn't be happy with the visual trade-offs.

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@devilscry They want to keep the flow of the gameplay, which is more important than resolutions, which is what I keep saying to people. Do you really want an empty experience or a robust full experience?

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No guarantee for 1080/60 on the PC (at least on a single card setup) given that it's next gen and open world. I'll probably still get it since apparently GTA V isn't coming to the PC :-(

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@Keivz_basic why in the hell would you wait for GTAV? Watchdogs is light years ahead from GTAV. in every f*kin possible way there is.

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You know this how seeing the game isnt out yet?

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@virtuasega Virtual tarot cards on his PC must be awesomely powerful ;)

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Next gen consoles are joke, these console makers been saying 1080p since last gen and we STILL SEE game not being 1080p. Yah for another 5 years of promises they cant deliver. This what happens when the use MOBILE cpu's

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Developers never promised 1080p or 60fps in every game. Some gamers just jumped to the unrealistic conclusion that all console games would be this generation and they have nobody but themselves to blame if they are disappointed.

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@kalipekona @tsunami2311 Imo its not about now but about the near future. People now bitch and trash each others system, not realizing that in the near future they are both screwed :/

In 2 to 3 years will be lagging behind so much comparing to PCs that the difference will make an actual impact. Not even fanboys will be able to defend their consoles then...

I always was a fan of consoles and had several from each generation, but the current one is an awful investment and will surely be end of consoles (which is bad).

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@kalipekona @tsunami2311


Technology have evolved alot in the last five years blame the console makers for their hardware not being able to hit 1080p 60fps.. Personally it kinda pisses me off thinking about how both companies went to the same place to get their gpu chips designed but whatever hopefully next cycle it will be different.

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@Cli7_Ye4stHo0d What the heck are you talking about?

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So you're saying the PS4 version will have a couple hundred thousand more pixels and look 12% better. Win

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I'm not quite sure how it's possible that the PS4 and Xbox One got made with such poor hardware as they were. I'd have paid $500 for a stronger PS4. Mass production is supposed to benefit the consumers more than it has thus far, by a lot. Xbox made a $100 initial cost of theirs for a camera system which they might as well admit right now doesn't work as well as they needed it to. And PS4 runs marginally better but in negligible amounts.


I hope this console cycle is over quickly, in maybe 4-6 years, so we can get something akin to the jump that PS3 made over PS2 and 360 made over original Xbox with the new ones. The difference between Gears of War and anything on PS2 or Xbox was immediately evident. I'm rather disappointed so far.


The devs will need to crank out some excellent software to make up for this lapse.

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@downloadthefile If you compare Nvidia 7800 with ATI 7850/70, you will see that jump over PS3 is significant. If you add there 8GB of GDDR5 compared to 0.5GB of DDR3, jum will only get larger.

Mistake you are making is comparing latest PS3 games to earliest PS4 games. Dig out release games for PS3 and consider them. Not so flashy at all.

I will eat my hat if PS4 and XBO don't have the same path. Games that really squeeze max out of them are still more then a year away.

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@downloadthefile Well, yo gotta make some sacrifices to get the price down to $400. But in reality, it actually doesn't matter how good the game looks, Second Son looks amazing on the console but still plays like a last gen game and thus gets boring fast. I would rather have them spend resouces in developing engines that introduce better AI and better animations, facial animations, voice acting, and also, better stories.

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I can't wait to play this on PC.

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Hahahaha console peasants get the shaft AGAIN.

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@billlabowski lookguys lol another pc player surfing console news as always....sim city not working pal?

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I guess I am glad that Watch Dogs is going to be one the last games I will be getting new on my 360.

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Is it just me or is Ubisoft getting lazy when it comes to developing.

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Or they did their best to max out the aging hardware?

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@bldgirsh to max out THEIR aging engines.

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Games gonna be terrible anyway.

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It's ok, we still have high res and fps on PC.

I'll be running it at 1440p with all the Nvidia physx goodies.

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@thermalmotion spending $2000 on a gaming rig just so you can see 5 specs of dust particles or 3 extra stitches of thread on aden pearce jacket..only when hunched up at your desk with your eyes 3 inches away from the screen? No thanks. To each his own...I dont think its worth it. truth is if you took your rig and actually sat on a couch, say 5 metres away from your TV, chances are you wont tell the difference.

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@mwamba1 My TV is 100" so I can tell.

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@thermalmotion one problem with that....you still have to use a pc so no thanks

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What a crock of sh*te!!

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The PC master race wins again. So much for "Next" gen

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this is the future folks , neither system running at 1080/60

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a little dissapointintg i was hoping for a smoother frame rate than 30fps in games like these objects in the distance seem to chugg when you turn and i hate that i guess this is a pc buy

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