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Saints Row Review - Open-World Nostalgia

  • First Released Aug 23, 2022
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The Saints Row reboot ditches the over-the-top aspects of its predecessor, but still feels like it's trapped in the past.

It's been nine years since Saints Row IV was released, pitting the 3rd Street Saints against an alien invasion that featured superpowers, time-travel, Matrix-style simulations, and the complete destruction of Earth. Where do you go after a game so ridiculous and outlandish? After a period of absence, rebooting the series sounds like a logical next step, and that's exactly what developer Deep Silver Volition has done with this new, stripped-back Saints Row.

It's still not "realistic" by any stretch of the imagination, but it is slightly more grounded. However, you still shouldn't envisage finding many of the modern trappings of open-world games. For as much as Saints Row differentiates itself from the bombast of its past few entries, it still closely resembles a game from the same era, leading to an experience that often feels stale and dated.

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For the most part, this isn't something you could level at Saints Row IV's approach to freedom around character identity and gender, and this has carried over into the rebooted Saints Row. The character creator lets you design pretty much any person you want. There's a broad range of prosthetic options, various types of vitiligo, a number of sliders for body options that do away with binary gender selection, a choice of six distinct voices, and the ability to make an asymmetrical face, to name just a few of the available options. You can also hop back into the character creator at any point and change your entire look. This sounds like an insignificant feature, but it isn't always a given and speaks to Saints Row's focus on inclusivity.

You can create a character that represents you, or simply delve into some of the more eccentric customization options and devise a creation with metal skin, demonic eyes, and glowing red hair. There are already some fairly accurate recreations of Shrek being shared, just to give you an idea of how exhaustive the process is.

Once you've finished creating your ideal gang boss, you're thrown into a story centered around four young friends who share a dingy apartment and commit crimes to try and make rent. Saints Row adopts an anti-capitalist stance and touches on some socially conscious issues throughout its first few hours, with characters bemoaning their crippling student debt and lack of health insurance, while also taking a satirical swipe at toxic corporate culture. Alluding to these issues makes the cast somewhat relatable, but it doesn't take long before you're building a criminal empire and discarding these topics in favor of more outlandish endeavors.

While the main character is a self-described murder machine, the rest of your friends are well-rounded and avoid falling into a pitfall of homicidal archetypes. The perpetually shirtless Kev, for instance, is obsessed with food and music, regularly talking about the kitchen appliances he hopes to buy when not busy DJing a party. Neena, on the other hand, is a mechanic who loves restoring classic cars but also has an appreciation for art and an interest in gallery curation. Then there's Eli, the strategist and aspirational entrepreneur of the group. He's averse to violence but spends his off-hours LARPing in the desert and shooting like-minded individuals with foam bullets.

The heart of Saints Row has always resided in its characters, and the dynamic and playful banter between the friendship group is the highlight of the story. They may be violent criminals, but they're the kinds of people you wouldn't mind hanging out with and provide a bright spot in an otherwise unfulfilling narrative. The overarching plot is fairly boilerplate and plays out as you would expect. It's anticlimactic, too, as most problems are solved with relative ease, adversaries are simply dealt with, and more than a few loose ends remain unresolved. After the previous two numbered games in the series were imbued with such creativity, it's disappointing that the storytelling in this reboot is so humdrum.

While the story does touch on some modern social trends, the gameplay feels dated. Much of Saints Row feels like a throwback to the open-world design of a decade ago. Its third-person shooting is adequate, but it's tough to get a good feel for the aiming when playing on a controller. The reticle is always slightly too finicky, even after fiddling with the sensitivity settings to try and find a sweet spot. It's something I grew accustomed to over time, but the best way to approach combat is by making liberal use of the auto-aiming assistance that locks onto targets when aiming down sights. This makes it easier to execute headshots and trigger the satisfying splat that accompanies them.

The arsenal of weapons at your disposal is rather lackluster, however. There's the usual assortment of pistols, SMGs, and shotguns, but there's little reason to deviate from the starting assault rifle. The inaccuracy of the SMGs only compounds the game's awkward aiming, and the shotguns feel decidedly weak and are irritatingly slow to fire--an issue when most enemies soak up damage. The base assault rifle excels in any situation, so it quickly became my go-to for the majority of the game, especially since neither of the upgrades for it were all that appealing due to their slower rate of fire.

Fortunately, the addition of whimsical skill moves does spruce up combat quite a bit. By completing missions and earning experience points, you level up along a linear progression path where each level unlocks a new skill move. You can assign up to four at once and utilize them in combat by killing enemies to accrue the Flow points you need to activate them. These points fill back up relatively quickly, so it's unlikely you'll ever be left wanting for a chance to use one of these skills.

For as much as Saints Row differentiates itself from the bombast of its past few entries, it still closely resembles a game from the same era, leading to an experience that often feels stale and dated.

The first one you unlock lets you grab an enemy and stuff a grenade down their pants before heaving them back towards their buddies, which is especially useful for crowd control, on top of just being fun to do. Other skills range from a powerful flaming punch to an anti-gravity device that launches enemies into the air and leaves them defenseless. The standard weapons are lacking, but these skills add some much-needed variety to combat that shake up the familiar routine.

For the most part, these skills also incentivize you to push the attack and mix it up in combat, and this is something the game factors into its health system. Your health bar is divided into separate chunks. Your health will recharge automatically if you don't sustain damage for a few seconds, but it will only refill up to the nearest checkpoint--whether that's one-third of your health, two-thirds of your health, and so on. To get more health back, you need to kill enemies by getting up close and performing a stylish execution. You can only use these cinematic takedowns once before the ability needs to charge, but kills recharge the meter much more quickly, so you're encouraged to create mayhem in order to better heal yourself.

There's no cover system, only a roll that can help you avoid weapon fire, so combat is all about staying on the front foot and being aggressive to survive. It's at its best when things are frantic and you're overwhelmed by enemies converging on you from all sides. This happens more often on higher difficulties, but the checkpoints in campaign missions are so unforgiving that the tradeoff doesn't seem worth it.

When not shooting people, most of your time is spent behind the wheel of various vehicles. Driving in Saints Row feels overly floaty, but this was never a hindrance to my enjoyment of cruising around the city. There's a dedicated drift button that lets you swerve around corners with ease, and the addition of a sideswipe attack makes vehicular combat more exciting. Having to shoot and drive at the same time has never felt good in these types of open-world games, so being able to shunt cars off the road and watch them explode in a fiery blaze is a marked improvement on what's come before.

It helps, of course, that the fictional city of Santo Ileso is so visually appealing, mixing towering skyscrapers with quiet suburbs and large swaths of desert. Set in the United States' Southwest, it calls to mind places such as Albuquerque and Reno while being distinctly its own. You can see the influence of Mexican culture in some of its architecture and the beautiful murals adorning certain buildings, while the neon lights of its casinos cast a seedier vibe. It's a shame, then, that the city doesn't produce the emergent action that would give it life. This goes back to the game's archaic feel, where you spend much of your time simply driving back and forth between missions.

A significant part of Saints Row's campaign revolves around various Criminal Ventures. Once your startup is up and running, you can purchase these ventures to generate more money and gradually grow your business. You start off with a car dealership before being able to acquire a restaurant, laundromat, toxic waste disposal service, and more. Obviously, each one is a front for illicit activity, and it's your job to help out with that side of the business.

You need to steal food trucks full of drugs for the Chalupacabra restaurant, for example, while the car dealership tasks you with jacking specific vehicles around the city. These missions initially seem optional, providing you with another avenue to earn some cash. Before long, however, your progress through the campaign is gated by missions that require you to have purchased and completed a number of these Criminal Ventures. I always had multiple missions available, so it never felt like this halted my progress; the main issue is that these ventures are decidedly milquetoast.

Each one usually involves driving from A to B with only minor variations between them. Sometimes you're being chased, other times you have to avoid the police by dodging their big red circles on the mini-map. Either way, it's a lot of driving from point to point, over and over again, and it doesn't take long to become tedious. Some of the ventures offer a little variety, like the clothing brand that asks you to take pictures of different materials, or the medical clinic where you commit insurance fraud by throwing yourself into moving vehicles. The latter has featured throughout the series before and is the best of the bunch; the rest are just bland.

The traditional story missions add more impetus by engaging in action-movie hijinks, but the mission design still feels like a relic of the past. One early mission sees you assaulting a convoy by leaping from car to car to make it up the line. This sounds like an exciting set-piece, but in practice, you're just shooting static enemies before watching a short cutscene of your character making an untroubled jump. These missions are still enjoyable at times, but there's always this nagging feeling of déjà vu because it all feels so familiar.

Even when its creativity shines, it's let down on the gameplay side. One of the Criminal Ventures you can purchase involves Eli's Mad Max-inspired LARPing exploits. These missions are combat-focused and stand out because everyone is committed to role-playing. Your previously violent executions now consist of fake punches and pretend-chest-bursting, and your arsenal is replaced by toy weapons that fire foam projectiles. Later on, there's a giant cardboard worm that knocks people over with its roar, and there's an excellent recreation of the greatest death scene in movie history. I loved everything about this quest line except playing it. Despite all of these changes, combat is very much the same, only you're forced to use bad weapons that take twice as long to kill people. Saints Row has a lot of good ideas, but it restricts itself by not being ambitious enough from a gameplay perspective.

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It's also worth noting the open-world jank that comes with the territory. There's everything from characters that appear as floating heads to NPCs getting stuck in walls, broken vehicle physics, and enemy AI falling apart to the point where they don't realize you're there. For the most part, these are minor oddities that don't significantly hamper the game, but I also ran into a few more serious issues. During one mission, the scripting failed and left me trapped with no door to go through, while restarting at the nearest checkpoint caused the game to crash. There was another instance where a vehicle I had to destroy was indestructible, and a few other cases where a mission wouldn't progress.

Saints Row reins in the absurdity to a fairly significant degree but still manages to indulge in some of the chaotic action and silly hijinks the series is known for. Its story is simple and fairly predictable, yet spending time with its diverse and well-rounded characters makes it worth seeing through to the end. It's a shame the gameplay isn't quite as progressive, opting instead for out-of-date mechanics and level design. Combat is decent, and the story missions are enjoyable when at their most over-the-top, but there's too much bland filler in between. Rebooting the series made sense, yet in many ways, Saints Row is still stuck in the past and struggling to live up to its legacy.

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The Good

  • An extensive character creator gives freedom to identity and gender
  • The diverse cast of characters are fun to spend time with
  • Whimsical skills and a unique health system encourage aggressive combat
  • Sideswiping makes for engaging vehicular combat

The Bad

  • The boilerplate story is anti-climactic
  • Shooting is overly finicky and most of the weapons feel superfluous
  • Criminal Ventures are significant but their missions are bland and tedious
  • Its mission design is outdated and dull
  • Bugs and glitches can hinder the experience

About the Author

Richard played Saints Row for 22 hours, finishing the story and purchasing most of the Criminal Ventures in that time. Review code was provided by the publisher.
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Why are so many gamers right wing jerks? Is it because they're adolescents? The review is the gameplay sucks and the missions are boring. That means bad game. It has nothing to do with "wokeness."

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@dmblum1799: Why are so many left wingers such crybaby professional victims who can't handle anyone not liking everything they do? Difference of opinion. Deal with it.

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@dmblum1799: I don't know if right or left has much to do with it anymore, some people are just set on being outraged about "woke". If the score had been positive, we'd see comments saying GameSpot inflated it to push the "woke" agenda. Since the score's not so great, it's "woke" that ruined the game.

Not that Saints Row here looks particularly good, but I don’t think it was ever going to matter how the game turned out; some people were going to rant about “woke” when the review went up.

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@mogan: Woke now means anyone or anything not like them. As if the monopoly has been dethroned. I guess Goat Simulator is as woke as you can get...

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@gunnyninja: Now this is how I know you're talking in bad faith.

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@jpop187: You haven't said anything yet that makes sense to me. I'm not ignoring you, I just don't know what the hell you are talking about.

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@gunnyninja: Slow down think about what you said then get back to me.

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@jpop187: I think BEFORE I post...

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@gunnyninja: Clearly not Maybe you have an epiphany one day.

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@dmblum1799: Finding irregularities among the massive wave of forced-fed woke-narrative doesn't equate to people being right-wing, nor jerks. Have you seen TikTokers and their neo-pronouns where they refer themselves as animals and creatures? Like vamp/vampself and kitten/kittenself ? Not being on board for such things doesn't make you some double-barreled shotgun toting redneck.

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@Fandango_Letho: "double-barreled shotgun toting redneck." You have no idea what right wing means, do you?

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@Fandango_Letho: so because idiots refer to themselves as kittens you assume the whole self identification system is bad? These kids are ridiculing the he/she/they discussion just as much as the "double-barreled shotgun toting rednecks" who can't accept trans people

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@MigGui: I disagree. If you see it as ridicule then you are projecting YOUR feelings about it. People just want to be who they want to be. A segment of our society has determined they shouldn't. I've yet to understand how anyone is affected by what someone else feels abut themselves.

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@gunnyninja: I think it's two completely different things. Gay culture has self-identification in "tribes" since the dawn of time. Bear, cub, otter, twink, daddy, whatever. But no one calls this a gender. If someone wants to self-identify as a kitten, be my guest, but don't mix this with gender studies and trans and NB rights.

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@MigGui: You are clearly WAY more informed about this than I am, but I still don't think you can generalize why people call themselves whatever they choose.

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@dmblum1799: Maybe they are right. Anytime a company virtue signals that tells me it will most definitely be a pos.

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@jpop187: You act as if virtue is a myth. There are really people who feel the way you think is signaling. Just because you can't fathom it, doesn't make it fake.

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@gunnyninja: Sure and I have a bridge to sell you if you think companies give a "fill in the blank". How many companies went rainbow flags in the middle east or china during a certain month? Keep believing in companies moral high horses.

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@jpop187: Companies are made of people.

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@gunnyninja: And water is wet

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@dmblum1799: The review doesn't say anything about wokeness, but I'm seeing a lot of people giving examples of the game's dialogue, and I can see where the criticism is coming from. Even if you ignore the politics, apparently the majority of the dialogue is aimed at zoomers-so tons of cringeworthy jokes and forced edginess-and that right there is an auto-fail in my book.

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@Barighm: I had to google zoomer, so I guess that means not me. But what age of people use that term? Also not me...

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@dmblum1799: I don't think it's about right wing jerks per se, but when the devs bring so much attention about being contemporary and removing what was considered dated humor, people will notice and comment.

Specially with them trying to distance themselves from what the games were.

So yeah, people will comment the game is woke, they removed the edge, they remove the dumb phallic weapons. But they didn't add anything of substance to the game other than a diverse cast. Specially because the previous games already had a diverse cast and it didn't feel the need to flaunt it.

Quotes from the devs.

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“It was a great opportunity for us to just tell the story that we wanted to tell, and most importantly tell a story that is contemporary — that we think the people are going to relate to."

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“We love [the oldSaints Rowgames], but we also recognize those are games of a time. They made sense within that era, and we were able to do things that felt good back then.”

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“we’re exploring a more diverse group of characters so it gives us a lot more avenues to explore, anyway.”

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@RogerioFM: What makes it "flaunting" diversity now? And so the hell what? You come from a time where game characters were mainly white, so it's being flaunted to make up for that? The people who buy games are more diverse than the people IN games. Companies realized that. Why should anyone be bothered by it? They are bothered because they don't like those people in RL, so naturally they don't like them in their games. No one else would call this wokeness or any other dumb ass form of that word.

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@gunnyninja: Johnny Gat, Shaundi, Oleg, Pierce, Josh, Angel, Zimos, Kinzie.

Loved those characters, very diverse. Previous games never worried about making a big deal of it.

Have a good one.

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@RogerioFM: This why they went from gangsters to hispters I never know. I seen the cutscenes, listen to dialogue and none of them come off as likable.

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@RogerioFM: So what's the problem now? Weren't they "flaunting" the diversity of those characters? That's what made the Saints special, was that ANYONE could be one. Why is THIS game now criticized for the same formula. In fact one of the friends is even a member of a rival gang. Three different races and a fourth of the player's choosing. There is only one reason to have a problem with that. "woke" meant something different before politicians started using it...

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@gunnyninja: Strawmanning again. You should question why companies feel the need to virtue signal instead of shutting up and just doing it. They want idiots who only care about skin color to buy the game but news flash these people don't play games in the 1st ace.

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@jpop187: "These people"? So you think only white people play video games? Only straight people? Only males? You just went full ahole. Never go full ahole...

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@gunnyninja: Keep exposing yourself as a racist keep getting offended on my behalf. You're speaking to a black hispanic so keep making assumptions.

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@jpop187: Interesting. So which people do you think don't play video games, Leroy Sanchez? See, THAT would be racist. But I digress. Sounds like you are including people like yourself in your description. It's not that I don't believe you, but, make it make sense...

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@gunnyninja: Can't stand the thought of people like me leaving the plantations. Your the one bring up peoples skin color and sexual orientation so keep exposing yourself. You don't see people for who they are, only there outward appearances.

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@jpop187: gunnyninja is a resident troll. Ignore him.

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@ironhorse89: I figured by his posting history just enjoying the salt.

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@jpop187: lol, my kids would get a kick out of reading this, but you didn't answer my question. Which people don't play video games?

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@gunnyninja: Kids funny, answer mine first. See our civil discourse and reply.

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@jpop187: I asked you 3 times. You make a statement about a group of people then claim to be a member of that group. I want to be clear. I don't find any ambiguity in anything I've said. I doubt ANY reasonable person reading my comments in this thread would call me a racist. Except you. So are you reasonable or not?

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@gunnyninja: Yes i'm quite reasonable when i'm dealing with a reasonable person now i'm just having fun when i'm dealing with someone who brings up skin color when no one else has.

Tells me a lot about what kind of mindset you built for yourself.

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@jpop187: No one else has? Why the hell do you think people call this game woke?

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@gunnyninja: What does woke mean to you?

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@jpop187: It means being understanding of what struggles people unlike me go through. Just as it always has.

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@RogerioFM: Eesh. If those are indeed quotes from the devs I can see where they went wrong. At least in terms of making characters. How the hell are people supposed to relate to riding on top of cars and shooting people?

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@ratchet200: This game offers tissue boxes as shoes. If realism is what you seek, gaming generally isn't the way to find it.

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@gunnyninja: Also likes to break every few minutes. Not sure why its controversial to want a bug free experience when they are asking full price.

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Everyone knew it was going to be bad, and it is. Next!

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No, its not trapped to the past, the game is exactly some demanded, a boring, lifeless, toothless mess, trying to be hip and as inoffensive as possible. It's exactly what was demanded of it. Enjoy.

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@RogerioFM: I don't think the effort to be inoffensive makes stories have to be anti-climactic, or shooting finicky, or mission designs bland and tedious, or creates a bunch of bugs and glitches. Even if the writing was edgy and offensive, Saints Row doesn't sound like it'd be a good game.

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@mogan: Not in general it doesn't, but I think it did in this case, they forgot to make it an interesting game. If it had any edge, it would still be more that we got.

The promotion material and the interviews really focused on how progressive the game would be, but the devs forgot to add any substance to go with their message of diversity. Ideals aren't a replacement for quality story telling.

I'm not saying an innocent game has to be bad, I love Golf Story and it's pretty harmless, but it's not bogged down with trying to progressive, it's focus was on being fun and entertaining.

When you make an entertainment piece as a vehicle for your views and ideologies first and entertainment last, well, you can't complain when you get shitty scores.

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The world map also seems outdated and dull. Honestly, the game feels more like a remaster rather than a new AAA game.

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