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Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales Review - Miles Per Power

  • First Released Nov 12, 2020
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  • PC

Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales sticks a bit too close to its predecessor in terms of mechanics, but manages to stand on its own through its story and characters.

Editor's note: Spider-Man: Miles Morales is releasing on November 12 for both PS5 and PS4. For this review, Jordan played on a PS4 Pro. Other GameSpot staff tested the game on PS5 and found it to be a largely comparable experience, with the PS5 version benefiting from improved visual flourishes and load times. For a technical-focused discussion of the PS5, and how Miles Morales benefits, check out our PS5 review. This review has also been updated by Alessandro Barbosa to reflect our experiences on PC.

Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales feels like the second half to The City That Never Sleeps, a three-part follow-up expansion to 2018's Marvel's Spider-Man--the game even begins with the option to watch a short recap of the first game and its DLC in order to bring you up to speed on Miles' origins, reinforcing the notion that this is an extension of what's come before.

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And, unfortunately, the gameplay in Spider-Man: Miles Morales (which I will hereafter refer to as SM:MM because I'll be damned if I try to write a full review that cleverly tries to make a distinction between Spider-Man/Miles Morales the game and Spider-Man/Miles Morales the character; I won't do it) never quite manages to break free of that feeling. That isn't necessarily a bad thing--I like 2018's Spider-Man for its engaging combat loop, so I'm glad SM:MM emulates it. It's just that sometimes SM:MM can feel too similar to what's come before, which can get in the way of establishing Miles as his own brand of superhero. Regardless, the familiar trappings of SM:MM are used to tell an entirely fresh story with a few brand-new faces. And it's that narrative and those characters that manage to distinguish SM:MM as an open-world action game that's compelling to play.

Like its predecessor, SM:MM throws you right into the action. After a short intro, Miles suits up and joins Peter Parker in escorting a convoy transporting supervillain Rhino, who's being taken back to prison after his escape in the previous game. Things don't go according to plan, but Miles manages to step up in a big way during the mission, proving to his mentor that he's capable of watching over New York City on his own for two weeks while Peter goes on a vacation with Mary Jane.

I love this opening. There's a frantic pace to it; the game tosses you straight into its combat and traversal mechanics, immediately having you fight some escaped convicts before sticking you to the back of a rampaging Rhino. You need to steer the hulking brute around obstacles and pedestrians in a crowded shopping mall, and then you're flung into the open world to chase after the villain through the twists and turns of the city streets. And that's just the first 10 minutes. So even though the first few mechanics you learn are fairly straightforward--despite his inexperience, Miles controls just like Peter in the first game so web-slinging is practically effortless and combat isn't much harder--the sheer whiplash of needing to constantly adapt to different types of gameplay in such a short time puts you right into Miles' headspace. You can complete the level in one go because it's the prologue and it's easy, but it feels like Miles is just getting by and that Peter is doing most of the work anyway (he even covers for you when you make a mistake, like missing a quick-time prompt).

Tinkerin' With The Narrative

In moderation, I think this would have been a great way to convey to the player how stressful Miles' newfound responsibility is. But SM:MM never lets up. It's high-key set piece after high-key set piece for most of its 11-hour runtime, with very little time reserved for quiet moments of reflection. Miles acquires a series of gadgets and abilities at a fairly steady pace as well (including his trademark venom sting and camouflage superpowers, which I'll get to in a bit), several of which emerge in unsatisfying ways as seemingly random bouts of deus ex machina. At times, it can feel like SM:MM is almost rushing towards its conclusion, desperate to deliver on the promise that Miles ends the game as a seasoned Spider-Man without really slowing down to show you how he manages to earn the respect and appreciation of a city that already knows and loves a Spider-Man.

The main plot of SM:MM sees Miles simultaneously try to garner the favor of New York by fulfilling requests left by random New Yorkers on a smartphone app and stop the escalating conflict between Roxxon Energy Corporation and a gang called the Underground. Roxxon is buying up bits and pieces of Harlem to make room for reactors that will run on a brand-new energy source. Meanwhile, the Underground want to make a name for themselves, and thanks to the advanced arsenal of weapons they now have thanks to their new boss, the Tinkerer, the gang is setting its sights on destroying the prominent Roxxon.

The Tinkerer in Spider-Man: Miles Morales (captured on PS5).
The Tinkerer in Spider-Man: Miles Morales (captured on PS5).

The story is your standard superhero affair with betrayals and ramifications that are familiar to the genre but still exciting to watch unfold. If anything, it's the characters who manage to keep SM:MM from feeling formulaic--the Tinkerer, especially. It's difficult to hype up how good of a villain they are without spoiling the best moments from SM:MM's campaign outright. When pressed, I've just been telling people that SM:MM does for the Tinkerer what the movie Spider-Man: Homecoming does for the Vulture. The game humanizes a classic but somewhat bland member of Spidey's rogues' gallery and gives them a compelling reason for why they turned to a life of crime, reinventing the character into more of a tragic figure. In a certain light, the Tinkerer's actions could be construed to be almost heroic (in an anti-hero sort of way), allowing the character to exist as a dark foil to Miles' Spider-Man. And at the center of that comparison between Miles and the Tinkerer is the two's shared life experiences.

Prior to Miles' regular interactions with the Tinkerer, his evolution as a hero is primarily seen through his closest friends and confidants. Miles is surrounded by heroes, so a small but significant part of SM:MM is his musings about who he should be taking inspiration from. His friends serve as two sides of a coin, playing the roles of angels and devils in the debates that will define Miles. Ganke, for example, knows that Miles is Spider-Man and understands what Miles wants to get out of the role, but can't really empathize with Miles' Black or Puerto Rican heritage. Other friends and allies, however, more closely relate to Miles' cultural identities and struggles but don't understand the extent of his secret identity. Miles regularly talks to key members of the supporting cast throughout the first half of the campaign, and you get to see him coming to an understanding of what type of hero he wants to be through these conversations. It's awesome, and so when he dons his traditional black-and-red suit and emerges as a brand-new Spider-Man for the first time, one similar to but also altogether different from Peter Parker's Spider-Man, you can understand how he's grown to this point. You got to see it; you got to live through that internal turmoil with him.

A Different Side To The Same New York

The child of a Black father and Puerto Rican mother, Miles is a wonderful mixture of cultures and languages. His building is adorned with the Puerto Rican flag, his family has an old collection of jazz and R&B vinyl records, and he seamlessly transitions between standard English, African-American Vernacular English, Spanish, and American Sign Language based on who he's talking to (occasionally even mixing together one or two of them). The way he leaps off of rooftops and flips backwards to face the camera before falling into a headfirst dive is just full of the exaggerated swagger of a Black teen--it gives me goosebumps every time he does it, especially as the music begins to swell.

Miles in Spider-Man: Miles Morales (captured on PS5).
Miles in Spider-Man: Miles Morales (captured on PS5).

Speaking of, we've got to talk about the music in SM:MM. When Miles begins swinging, the orchestral score grows louder, but there's a nice synthetic hip-hop undercurrent to the whole thing. The music isn't as bombastic as that heard in 2018's Spider-Man. It instead crackles with a soft percussion--it reverberates in your ears with a steady crescendo that stops just short of overtaking the sounds of the city. It allows Miles (and to an extent, the player) to remain clued into New York even while soaring through the air at breakneck speeds to the sound of bomb-ass beats. I also need to shoutout SM:MM's use of Jaden Smith and Kid Cudi's "On My Own," which is used perfectly in an introductory scene--it fits as well into the game as Post Malone and Swae Lee's "Sunflower" did in the movie Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.

Unfortunately, SM:MM can't slow down enough for you to really immerse yourself in the music that plays in the open world. If Ganke isn't calling to direct Miles to his next objective, then it's Miles' mother checking in or his uncle offering some advice or J. Jonah Jameson ranting about the new web-swinging menace or someone else. The game is constantly cutting off the music to deliver a new waypoint for you to follow or a conversation to listen to before the new waypoint appears. And thankfully, you can turn some of these voices off, but many are tied to the story--so you'll have someone almost always yapping in your ear. I'm enjoying traversal in the game far more now having finished the campaign, as I can just appreciate the rhythmic beat of the music while marveling at the beautiful murals, busy parks, and other aspects of New York culture that are on display in Harlem.

The game does look better on PS5, but the difference isn't drastic enough to fundamentally change the experience.

Speaking of, outside of Harlem (which has gotten a little bit of extra aesthetic love in order to better capture the culture of the area), SM:MM's New York is largely the same as the one in 2018's Spider-Man; the city is now just covered in snow and holiday decorations. I played the game on PS4 Pro and found SM:MM's graphics to look a lot like 2018's Spider-Man. A few of my coworkers have played SM:MM on PS5 and report that the game does look better on next-gen, but the difference isn't drastic enough to fundamentally change the experience--the game is sharper, reflections of characters in windows are far more clear, and load times are faster. The technical features provided by PS5's DualSense controller don't add anything essential to the gameplay either; there's trigger resistance to represent the effort Miles need to put in to shooting webs when soaring through the air, and subtle vibrations in the controller for whenever a phone vibrates or a train moves along a track. They're cool bells and whistles, but you're getting a similar experience whether you're playing on PS4 or PS5. You can read our PS5 review for a more detailed breakdown.

Regardless of where you're playing, SM:MM's buildings are a lot more stunning while in motion--really, the whole city is. Taking a break from web-swinging or fighting crime to walk on the city streets and high-five pedestrians reveals somewhat drab NPC designs and no meaningful way for Miles to interact with his fellow citizens. Given that one of Miles' biggest motivations in the game is to connect with the people of his city, it's disappointing that there's no way to do so--the only choice you have when trying to help the people of New York is how exactly you want to beat up the problem they're facing.

There are a few side missions that aren't about Miles fighting crime, though; these are found in the new app request side activities. Between chapters, Miles typically muses aloud that he should take a moment to respond to requests for help on his app. And it's in these bite-sized stories that you get to see Miles interacting with his community, albeit with shallow, forgettable characters save for a man who needs you to rescue his cat and a girl who's deaf and might have a crush on Miles. And honestly, I think it says a lot that I can only remember the cat's name, and that's only because it's "Spider-Man," which is very memorable. But you have to purposely keep selecting these missions, otherwise Ganke calls after you complete one to let you know where to go next for the main campaign. Sometimes he doesn't even wait that long. He's called me on the way to responding to app requests to tell me about the very important story thing that Miles needs to do next. So you can either disrupt the overall flow of the main campaign to do side activities or keep up with the pace of the main story, which largely means rushing forward from chapter to chapter. It's a rather annoying pacing issue--I felt like Miles wouldn't do things like take a picture with a fan, track down lost toys, or break icicles off a crane when he has a lead on the Tinkerer.

Brand-New Moves, Same Ol' Swing

Gameplay-wise, SM:MM is built on the already solid foundation of 2018's Spider-Man, relying on a straightforward but still compelling timing system for both traversal and combat. Web-swinging through the air and catapulting off of rooftops is effortless to pick up, and combat and stealth sections aren't that much harder. However, despite how approachable the game is, SM:MM still pushes you to get better by rewarding you for pulling off more advanced timing on the tempo of Miles' web-swinging and combat abilities. Do you need to use these harder-to-time abilities to beat the game? No. But getting the timing down produces a flow-like rhythm to both traversal and combat, allowing them to more seamlessly mold together in an ever more satisfying way over time.

Though Miles controls pretty much exactly like Peter did in 2018's Spider-Man, he has a few unique superpowers: venom strikes and camouflage. Miles' venom strikes offer him area-of-effect attacks, stunning and damaging groups of enemies. Meanwhile, his camouflage allows him to fairly easily reset a stealth encounter or perform silent takedowns that Peter couldn't do in the first game. But even without these abilities, Miles is as powerful as his mentor. I'd sometimes go entire fights without using any of the venom attacks because I forgot that they were there. The same goes for invisibility in some of the stealth sections.

Spider-Man: Miles Morales captured on PS5
Spider-Man: Miles Morales captured on PS5

Miles' unique powers are his own, but they simply fit into Peter's already established moveset. So, despite being a new Spider-Man, Miles doesn't actually play like a new Spider-Man--which feels like a missed opportunity to use the gameplay to reinforce that Miles brings his own creative spin to his mentor's abilities. There are moments where using Miles' unique powers would be beneficial, but they're rare, relegating the venom strikes and camouflage to very specific situations. And since Miles is more than competent without venom or camouflage, the introduction of new enemy types that can temporarily disable his venom attacks or see him when he's invisible don't actually force you to get creative and tackle challenges in new ways.

And so the difficulty of SM:MM remains fairly flat throughout the campaign, only spiking for boss battles--one of which I do really like because it forces you to constantly switch up between Miles' normal and venom attacks to chip away at the boss and use web-swinging or Miles' camouflage to safely maneuver around the small arena. But you can't just spam Miles' abilities because venom strikes, gadgets, and camouflage are necessary for controlling the crowd of normal enemies that are also present. It's such a cool battle of attrition and crowd management, one that encourages you to embrace Miles' powers and fight in a wholly different way to most of the campaign. The whole fight is very representative of how SM:MM could have benefited from more combat encounters that incorporate Miles' unique powers and highlight how his fighting style is different from Peter's.

Home Is Where Harlem Is

Like I said at the top of this review, SM:MM feels a lot like a missing chapter to 2018's Spider-Man. The gameplay is so similar, and the environment is largely the same. It's in the characters (especially Ganke and the Tinkerer) and the story that it tells that SM:MM manages to break free of what's been done already to deliver something that you'll want to see all the way through.

It's a bit of a bummer to see Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales trip up at certain points, but thankfully, that doesn't happen often. The game wastes little time jumping you into Miles' story and rarely lets up on the brakes, packing the young wall crawler's first solo outing with more super powers and radio chatter than the game needs. And yet, despite its frantic pace, Spider-Man: Miles Morales is a compelling open-world action game that helps highlight why Miles is so special: his culture. It's Miles' unique differences and earnest attempts at figuring out how to protect his community that make him into such a wonderful hero, not the mask he wears and superpowers he wields.

Miles On PC

Like Spider-Man Remastered before it, Nixxes has delivered a PC port for Spider-Man: Miles Morales that improves upon the visual features offered by the console version, allowing you to put your additional processing power to use while also supporting a wide range of PC-specific features that cater to all brands of GPUs out there. It also shows off some of the work Nixxes has done since the release of Spider-Man Remastered just a few months ago, with performance and hardware utilization noticeably better but not without room for further improvement.

Spider-Man Miles Morales supports all of the features that Remastered does, including ultrawide displays, ray tracing, Nvidia DLSS (Deep Learning Super Sampling), AMD FSR (FidelityFX Super Resolution), and Insomniac's own upscaler, ITGI. New to Remastered, and by extension Miles Morales, is support for DLSS 3, which requires a new RTX 4090 or 4080 from Nvidia to make use of its AI-generated frame insertion. This creates a completely new frame after every traditionally rendered one to help boost framerates, with several caveats (strange visual abnormalities during repeated animations or poorly reconstructed frames, for example)that numerous deep dives have explored in exhaustive detail. It's not the star of the port given its reliance on cutting-edge new hardware, but it's good to see support here at launch.

Ray tracing has previously been confined to reflections for Spider-Man: Miles Morales, but the PC version extends that to ray traced shadows. The difference this makes to overall image quality is far more subtle than that of reflections, but there's no question that it's an improvement when you stop to observe shadows being cast during a golden sunset, or along a snow-slick street bathed in lightning at night. There's a performance cost associated with having them on, so it should be one of the first things you toggle off if you're looking for more frames, but it's a nice addition for those with the hardware to support it to further accentuate this game's eye-catching visual details.

In many ways, Miles Morales acts as a much better visual showpiece on PC than the previous Remastered entry does. Its winter setting allows for more wet puddles to populate streets and rooftops, bouncing light in all directions with blissful detail if you're dialing up the settings. The neon purple attacks of enemies and the way they reflect off the glossy coating of Miles' suit looks better here than it does on PS5 and leaves a greater lasting impression than the majority of the visual splendor of Peter's own adventure.

Nixxes has done a lot of work since the original release to alleviate some of the issues with CPU bottlenecks, and if you haven't checked in since that launch, you might be surprised to see how far it's come. Swinging through the streets of New York, this time with ray-traced shadows added to the mix of the high preset and using the same hardware, I was able to maintain a frame rate consistently between 60-70fps. That's still relatively low for a game running at 1440p on an RTX 3080 Ti, but it's around the same average that I achieved in Spider-Man: Remastered just a few months ago without the additional strain of ray-traced shadows. With this setting off, performance was noticeably higher, while utilizing DLSS at its Balanced preset allowed me to enjoy the action without a dip below 80fps. These were scenarios around the game's open world, with indoor sections exhibiting the same jumps in performance as last time.

This means that Spider-Man: Miles Morales is still quite CPU-limited when you're swinging around the city, but it's a noticeable improvement all around nonetheless. With that said, GPU and CPU utilization were still lower than desired, with the CPU (the same AMD 5600X as before) quickly standing out as the limiting factor. It's an improvement, but Miles Morales would benefit from more work here to run better with slower CPUs. In spite of that, Spider-Man: Miles Morales is as fantastic a port as Spider-Man: Remastered while also benefiting from the additional time Nixxes has had since the original release. If you've been waiting to play this since its debut nearly two years ago, there's no reason to wait any longer.

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The Good

  • Genuine care has been put into the depiction of Miles' culture as a half-Black, half-Puerto Rican resident of Harlem, especially in how it's used to inform the type of hero he wants to be
  • The fresh reimagining of the Tinkerer transforms a rather unremarkable comic book character into a compelling supervillain
  • Orchestral. Synthetic. Hip-hop.

The Bad

  • The incessant pace of the main storyline doesn't always mesh with Miles' commitment to slow down and help New York citizens
  • Miles doesn't actually play like a completely different Spider-Man

About the Author

Jordan completed Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales in about 11 hours and is eager to try out the New Game+ abilities once he's done completing all the side activities in his current save. He played the game on PS4 Pro using a code provided by Sony. Additional testing was done on PS5 by GameSpot staff using hardware and codes provided by Sony.
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Game is pretty terrible as there's no way to surpass Marvel's Spiderman in terms of story. Don't really care for the Tinkler as a villain. The game just feels like an add on which I am glad I didn't pay full price for this game on PS4. PS5 version does look better though and nicer than the PS4 version.

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I've been sitting here watching my boy play this game for a while now and it's horrible in my view. It starts out pretty cool...game intro, introducing powers, upgrades, story, blah blah blah......then you get to the actual game.....sigh!

Man, listen.....all I'm seeing is Spiderman 2. And that's not a complaint AT ALL. But just like in THAT game, you see the same crap over...and over....and over....AND OVER!!! The reason I am letting HIM play this game on my computer is because I do NOT have the patience for this damn game.

First, you come across this "Underground" gang, whose members number in the f*cking MILLIONS apparently. NOBODY IN THIS GAME HAS ENERGY BARS!!! There is absolutely no way of knowing how much progress you're making when fighting someone. You literally pick up manhole covers, which would break an extremely strong human's back if they tried to pick it up and toss it, swing it in a circle, and smash it into someone's FACE really...REALLY hard......and they get right back up as if it was just someone hitting them in the head with a kendo stick or something.....but a simple stealth knee to the face one-shots people. And did I mention there are NO FREAKING ENERGY BARS IN THIS GAME!!?

It doesn't matter what little side mission you're doing, RARELY do you come across anything in this game that doesn't include about 57 damn "criminals" clumped in one spot with NO ENERGY BARS and each and every one of them can take an extreme beatdown from a superpowered individual. Over, and over, and over, AND OVER!! I just don't have patience for it. It feels like you're not getting ANYWHERE, because no matter how many THOUSANDS of gang members you take down, an extra TEN thousand show up. Like seriously, no recruitment video in the history of EVER would convince that many people to join one ANYTHING, let alone multiples.

And is there a reason why ONLY Rhino is in this game? They mention other villains. You even see the Avengers tower, and Kingpin's building....and I THINK that chubby kid with the glasses is supposed to be Doctor Octopus, but NOTHING comes of any of it. It's just Rhino, and the never-ending flood of dudes and chicks who could take ass whippings that would make Superman stop and re-evaluate himself.

In all honesty, once he finishes this game, I'm taking it off my computer. I'm not gonna waste any energy playing it myself. People love Miles Morales in the Spiderman role....they just dropped the ball with this game

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This game was an incredible disappointment. They did a fantastic job establishing Miles in the original, and they do a good job establishing his family and community in this one. But then it all just falls apart. An incredibly boring, weak villain with a paint by numbers story. They only had one opportunity to introduce the character and they completely waste it.

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Meh. I dont need another politically correct game. Why is the video game so afflicted with this. There's to much of this woke fluid sexuality on the news letalone games. I was 50-50 with this, especially with the price. Now i'm waiting for big price drops before it touch it. Maybe spiderman 2 will have peter become pauline halfway though the game.

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I seriously enjoyed this game. I however did not enjoy THE HUGE virtue signal sent to Black Lives Matter. I follow politics and real life on twitter and facebook. I play a video game for the exact same reason that others watch football to remove myself from the real world. With that said I am utterly astounded how the first game in this series with Peter Parker and how the game was released in 2017 / 2018. The paramedics from the start are wearing surgical masks. Eventually a deadly virus is released all of the npcs are wearing surgical masks. Jamison speaks of George Orwell 1984. The game is literally a storyline you might expect in 2022 or 2023 about 2020 and yet the entire story plays exactly like 2020 and people are not realizing what a total spot on that game was. There are a great more details that occur in the game that hit dead on about 2020. The amount of things in the first story are so accurate it begs a lot of questions. Before you get all bent out of shape over my BLM comment get over yourself. I have 3 children a half black son, half mexican son and a white 14 year old. Before you try to say I do not understand if you haven't read 1984, then its you who do not understand. Finally also go look up a color revolution. I am 100% for Spiderman to be represented by other people of color race etc. I am not for playing a video game and having to see virtue signaling.

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I never thought my swagger was too exaggerated in my teenage years 😔😔

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This game is so racist. They turned spider man into a black person. What if we turned Dave Chappelle into a white person? Can Snow White be black? Black people need to come up with their own heroes and not turn white heroes black

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@deactivated-6051cfb0d2384: if anyone sounds racist is you.

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@deactivated-6051cfb0d2384: In one of Chapelle's best features, he's a blind black guy who thinks he's a white supremacist. But that's as close as we'll get, I believe. I wanna see Margot Robie play Harriet Tubman or maybe Jeff Bridges play George Washington Carver in a movie.

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@deactivated-6051cfb0d2384: So did you get mad when other people took over the mantle of Batman or Captain America in the comics or is it only an outrage when they're different from you?

In the game Miles doesn't even replace Peter, he's alive and well, he just goes out of the country with MJ and leaves Miles to protect the city in his stead. Peter will be back for the second game.

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@gmale: I'm confused as to how the game is racist. Also in the marvel universe there are many different spidermen and women, so the fact that they decided to expand the universe and make a different one that wasn't a white male, its racist?

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@gmale said:

This game is so racist. They turned spider man into a black person. What if we turned Dave Chappelle into a white person? Can Snow White be black? Black people need to come up with their own heroes and not turn white heroes black

This is an extremely bizarre and ignorant thing to say. Miles Morales is a comic book character and he is Spider Man from the Ultimate Comics universe originally. He was the successor to Peter Parker there. He's always been black.

You could have googled this and read a Wikipedia entry on Miles Morales to know this. Your comment is racist. Avoid saying racist things in the future.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Morales

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@izraal: NO what i said was not racist. what i said was a fact. when white celebrities like jimmy fallon dress up as black people it is viewed as outrageous and racist, but when dave chappelle or black people dress up as white people its okay? double standards?

miles morales was created in 2011 just to be diverse like every politician nowadays, its not the most qualified but the most diverse is a terrible idea!!! CANT HAVE DOUBLE STANDARDS!!!!

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@gmale:

Your statement remains racist, and you've now pivoted from actually talking about the Miles Morales character to discussing other popular culture icons. Miles Morales is Spiderman. Miles Morales is black. Accept it. If you have a problem with it based on the character's race, as you evidently do, it's racist.

Work on tolerance, and in the interim avoid making racist statements.

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@izraal: I strongly disagree. I never pivoted anything, I was on track all the way through. we'll never see eye to eye. please never respond to any of my comments. we're done here.

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@gmale:

Talking to people you don't see eye to eye with has value. Talking to people you agree with is just an echo chamber for validation. The former, if done respectfully, can actually be a conversation.

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Do we really need a second narrative about a Spiderman standing between a mentally ill and dangerous group and a corrupt corporation/politician? Once is interesting, twice is outright bizarre. This series is evidently determined to cast Spiderman as "reluctant defender of the corrupt 1%." That's a really odd angle to go to for Spiderman. Twice.

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@izraal: LMAO looks like we’ve got a George Zimmerman wannabe here. From izraal past posts he’s been snitching on people here Being a comments watch dog when he’s been banned before joined 2019 lmao. He’s also been telling moderator to ban people. These kind of trolls are the most despicable on comments section. Shame on you hypocrite izraal!!!

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@gmale:

I have shamelessly reported a large number of bots which were promoting links to pornographic websites on these forums. I will continue to do so. These are becoming a huge problem on this site.

To communicate this in your parlance, "Don't white knight for those bot girls, bro, that virtue signaling won't get you far. Don't be a simp. Virtue signaling won't get you anywhere with those porn spam bot thots."

Discussion of spam bots aside, it's still bizarre that the narrative of Spider-Man as defender of the 1% is being repeated. If you or anyone would like to discuss that, than we can do that. If you're attempting to engage in a personal attack, just let it go, that's not productive.

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You give the past few FIFA games 8s and 9s, yet you give this game a 7 for being too "similar" to a superb predecessor. This review is a joke

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The whole DLC talk is nonsensical. The main story is about 10 hours for the average player, the game has plenty of sidequests, it has a decent number of unlockables, and it also has a New Game+ with different difficulties options. I also see other people complaining that it's $70, so clearly these morons don't even have a PS5, or they would realize it's $50.

Anyways, this is one of few reviews that gave it a 7/10. I agree with the majority of critics giving it an 8.5-9/10. More of the same thing (with improvements and add-ons) is not necessarily a bad thing when it was great to begin with.

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@FadedDoody: if we want to be serious the original spiderman PS4 wasn't that long as far as story was concerned and just padded with content. I think the game with all DLC is one full game to me. Doesn't make it any less awesome though and yes I did buy at launch. I just wish they'd add pizza delivery missions as extra free side content.

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Latest Spiderman games (and films) suck at enemies. This time we got Rhino again and the nicely fleshed out tinkerman and that's about it. Game play suffers from repetition as a result. Still think this feels like an expansion...

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@croxus: well it's a $50 (what would have been $40 before Sony's price increases) game.... Kind of intentionally priced as a standalone expansion.

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Why does everyone get surprised when new consoles offer either no games, or meh games?

Series X:Hardly any games

Sony:A remake, a reskin, and a few meh games.

Give it time, and both Sony and MS will get in gear 2021. This is our life as gamers, and we should be used to it.

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@firstdawn: yeah that's how I always felt about the console wars. While some arguments are legitimate some don't have weight. The argument that the "PS4 had more games" lost a lot of weight when you considered the remakes alone. While they were good it narrowed the gap a bit

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@firstdawn: Not only that, but it's highly likely they'll release improved versions of the consoles just like the previous generation with PS4 Pro and Xbox One X. I'm definitely not ready to retire my PS4 yet (too many games to play lmao), so I would definitely get the revision of the PS5 (which I hope will be at least a bit smaller).

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@firstdawn: yeah but this game was actually good. I finished it yesterday and its my 3rd favorite of this year. But i agree with what you're saying.

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It's clearly DLC pretending to be a full game, which it is not. I'm not paying full price just for a bit of extra content.

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@Thanatos2k: "Full price" for Sony games now is $70. This is $50. Probably should have been $40 tops but either way it's not pretending to be a full game.

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@Thanatos2k: well then you're missing out. Yeah, sure, it's your money. Do whatever you want but this game at least deserved an 8/10. It's actually a pretty good game.

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"The way he leaps off of rooftops and flips backwards to face the camera before falling into a headfirst dive is just full of the exaggerated swagger of a Black teen--it gives me goosebumps every time he does it, especially as the music begins to swell."

Hmm, I was a black teen. I didn't (and don't) have this. The level of latent racism in the 'woke' crowd that they are not even aware of is very hilarious to me sometimes. Like the Joe Biden 'if you don't vote for me, you ain't black' comment. They are so blind to it yet bang the drum the loudest about racist!! Right...

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@apex_predator_0: when l read this review a few days ago l just assumed the reviewer was at one point a black teen making fun of the way it reminded them of their own exaggerated swagger as a youth... then l watched the review and l now feel retroactively dirty for thinking this. That is the cringiest most blatant shit. He might as well have said "This video game makes you feel like a jive soul brother. In the wake of the awesome black lives matter movement its really great to play as a black and the all the Spanishy stuff is really authentic, the music hips and hops throughout. It really helps you FEEL black."

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@realrobbrose: Thats very racist. suggesting its better to play as a black person.

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im just glad this is on PS4, i can wait on getting a ps5 till next year, plus i have a $20 certificate thatll drop this down to $30 which is what the game should be reasonably priced at if it isnt a whole new game and its shorter than the first

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I don't like the false advertising for this game.... since it's not a fully brand new game.... it's falsely advertised DLC/expansion. Very clever on the part of the developers to trick people into thinking that this is a separate fully developed sequel. It's not.

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@divisioncalpha: eh. The half- measure sequel using the assets of the previous game that otherwise will just be thrown away, is pretty common place these days. At least it's $10-20 less than full price as opposed to what most companies do with their 1.5 sequels

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@divisioncalpha: But it's still better than a 7 out of 10. Really good game actually. Glad i listened to ACG and bought it.

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i would appreciate it more, if the price point were around 40 usd, however if one has not played the original spider man game, 70 bucks does seem to be ok for both of the games...

i reckon i get it when the price drops, anyways i was holding myself back for ghosts of tsushima and tlou 2 for the release of ps5, i can dive into those when the ps5 is released... :D

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@MondasM: isn't this game $50?

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@realrobbrose: yep, at least 10 bucks too expensive for my taste... :D

the bundle with the "remastered" og spiderman for 70 dollars is definitely a good deal, if you haven't played spiderman at all...

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I am interested in the game and will get it for the PS4 and PS5 when I get an PS5

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