Why Gears of War 2 is broken.

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#1 INF1DEL
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Sorry, I know people say this all the time. But this is different. I actually took the time to write a blog listing and explaining all the problems I've had with the game. I even gave possible solutions for them. Be prepared for a long read (this game has lots of problems). Constructive criticism is welcome, trolls are not.

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#2 clancy78
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doesnt seem to broken considering it got basically 5 stars from everywhere including here

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#3 Palantas
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I don't suppose you could précis your article for the forum here? As it is, this post is just an advertisement for your blog.

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#4 l33isb345t
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No it's not, your just mad because of stuff you get killed by. I do everythin in the game, with the smokes and frags and shotguns. EVERYONe uses it because they are useful!

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#5 mlbslugger86
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as to your point about people leaving early..that happens in alot of games...hell i've seen so many players quit in the middle of a fight in halo 3

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#6 INF1DEL
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Heres my 'conclusion'.

I want to like this game. But for that to be possible Epic has a lot of work to do first.
I don't know why this game lags so much more than any other but if they can't fix that they should look into dedicated servers. That would take care of the host advantage as well as hosts using standby. Adding bots to replace quitters seems like a really obvious and reasonably easy fix to me.
Making the lancer and hammerburst stronger would make the game play more like I think it was intended to. In the interest of fairness I think they should replace the knockdown on the smoke grenades with a short stun, only give you one frag at a time, and remove or at least reduce the amount of explosives in objective gametypes.
Use standard matchmaking. Lose the two piece. If possible, change the 'action' controls, or give those who want it the option. And really, I don't need Hoffman to insult me every time I lose a round.

doesnt seem to broken considering it got basically 5 stars from everywhere including here

clancy78

I don't put too much stock in reviews. I like the campaign, and the multiplayer is fun despite the problems it has. I'm just saying it could be a lot better.

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#7 jameeler91
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I want to like this game. But for that to be possible Epic has a lot of work to do first.
I don't know why this game lags so much more than any other but if they can't fix that they should look into dedicated servers. That would take care of the host advantage as well as hosts using standby. Adding bots to replace quitters seems like a really obvious and reasonably easy fix to me.

INF1DEL



Those 2 things are the main reason Gears is broken right now. I'm pretty surethat EPIC is releasing an update soon to replace quitters w/bots, reduce the stun time on the smokes, and make the ranking system XP based so if you quit, it literally is your loss. Now I'm not sure if any of the above thingsI listed are facts, but i read somewhere on the Gears forums about it.
I always did wonder though why EPIC didn't just make dedicated servers, cause in some matches i can't go 10 feet w/out being lagged backwards.

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#8 II-FBIsniper-II
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I stopped playing this game weeks after I bought it. I loved the first and played it for months, but I can't play a game with a multiplayer as broken as Gears'.
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#9 HaDoKeN_NaTe
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wow ur just pathetic really...minor changes? your basically asking epic to revamp the whole game!...look the lag is bad at times and i also hate the smoke grenades...but seriously...get over it..i've gottan over it and i still play gears every day and have fun...sure it still seems bad but hey i play with my friends and we still have alot of the fun even with all the stupid problems...so nutt up and stop crying or just stop playing the game all together

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#10 MrArmageddon8
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lol@ smoke grenades sending a 300+ pound soldier flying 10 feet.

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#11 therascricket
Member since 2005 • 25 Posts

Nope - TC is right, all the rest of you are just "wanna be know it all's".

Anytime you confront rabid fanboyism with actual gameplay critiques, this is what you get. You get some noob like the guy above me saying the TC is an idiot.

Buddy, if you dont think Gears 2 is way too full of weird bugs and poor performance, dont breed and just stop gaming. Cuz you obviously cant observe things too well.

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#12 Palantas
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Heres my 'conclusion'.

I want to like this game. But for that to be possible Epic has a lot of work to do first.
I don't know why this game lags so much more than any other but if they can't fix that they should look into dedicated servers. That would take care of the host advantage as well as hosts using standby. Adding bots to replace quitters seems like a really obvious and reasonably easy fix to me.
Making the lancer and hammerburst stronger would make the game play more like I think it was intended to. In the interest of fairness I think they should replace the knockdown on the smoke grenades with a short stun, only give you one frag at a time, and remove or at least reduce the amount of explosives in objective gametypes.
Use standard matchmaking. Lose the two piece. If possible, change the 'action' controls, or give those who want it the option. And really, I don't need Hoffman to insult me every time I lose a round.

INF1DEL

I think calling the game "broken" is an exagerration, however I agree with some of your points. Obviously the lag is an issue. Here's something really ironic: Unreal Tournament 3, another Epic game but with a fraction of Gears' popularity, has dedicated servers. Gears doesn't. What the hell sort of sense does that make?

I agree with the matchmaking thing, and I agree that users should be given more options when it comes to their controls. As for your other points, I don't feel I've played enough Gears to comment authoritatively on them.

wow ur just pathetic really...minor changes? your basically asking epic to revamp the whole game!

HaDoKeN_NaTe

And you're prone to hyperbole, really. Half of his suggestions involved fixing technical glitches or making the interface more user-friendly. As to his gameplay tweaks, they're just that: Tweaks. If you call this "revamping the whole game," I'd hate to see how react when an update's released in your favorite MMO.

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#13 INF1DEL
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Those 2 things are the main reason Gears is broken right now. I'm pretty sure that EPIC is releasing an update soon to replace quitters w/bots, reduce the stun time on the smokes, and make the ranking system XP based so if you quit, it literally is your loss. Now I'm not sure if any of the above things I listed are facts, but i read somewhere on the Gears forums about it.
I always did wonder though why EPIC didn't just make dedicated servers, cause in some matches i can't go 10 feet w/out being lagged backwards.

jameeler91

I really hope they do that. They should have done it in the first place.

wow ur just pathetic really...minor changes? your basically asking epic to revamp the whole game!...look the lag is bad at times and i also hate the smoke grenades...but seriously...get over it..i've gottan over it and i still play gears every day and have fun...sure it still seems bad but hey i play with my friends and we still have alot of the fun even with all the stupid problems...so nutt up and stop crying or just stop playing the game all togetherHaDoKeN_NaTe

I never used the word 'minor'. And I'd hardly call fixing balancing issues and design flaws 'revamping the whole game'. Yeah, calling it "broken" was exaggerating. You can still play it, even though I lose 75+% of the time due to lag, unbalanced teams, etc.

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#14 death1505921
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The reasons I only ever play the horde gametype tbh. Grab a mate or two, go on the horde and it's a good laugh.
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#15 Palantas
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It'd be nice if you could invite people to a Horde match in progress. If one of your friends lags out, he's gone unless you want to restart. (If you can do this, and I missed it...whoops.)

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#16 cheeseball99
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i agree campaign is awesome but the multiplayer is just sooooo argh. i waited for soooo long for gears 2. i too WANT to like it

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#17 smack_masta
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[QUOTE="jameeler91"]Those 2 things are the main reason Gears is broken right now. I'm pretty sure that EPIC is releasing an update soon to replace quitters w/bots, reduce the stun time on the smokes, and make the ranking system XP based so if you quit, it literally is your loss. Now I'm not sure if any of the above things I listed are facts, but i read somewhere on the Gears forums about it.
I always did wonder though why EPIC didn't just make dedicated servers, cause in some matches i can't go 10 feet w/out being lagged backwards.

INF1DEL

I really hope they do that. They should have done it in the first place.

wow ur just pathetic really...minor changes? your basically asking epic to revamp the whole game!...look the lag is bad at times and i also hate the smoke grenades...but seriously...get over it..i've gottan over it and i still play gears every day and have fun...sure it still seems bad but hey i play with my friends and we still have alot of the fun even with all the stupid problems...so nutt up and stop crying or just stop playing the game all togetherHaDoKeN_NaTe

I never used the word 'minor'. And I'd hardly call fixing balancing issues and design flaws 'revamping the whole game'. Yeah, calling it "broken" was exaggerating. You can still play it, even though I lose 75+% of the time due to lag, unbalanced teams, etc.



No, the game is broken. It is the worst multiplayer experience I've had from going from Gear 1 to 2. Epic messed up and they have to fix it before people can take the multiplayer serious. Calling it broken is an understatement, the game is a total mess.

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#18 Thinkin2little
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OK anyone who thinks that the multiplayer for gears of war 2 is messed up then they aren't a real gears fan. Gears is one of the more tactical shooters out there. You have to talk with your team to help kill the other because of all the cool unique features that they added. If they were to reduce the time of the smoke grenade stun it would be just as worthless as it was in the first gears. Also the ranking system is OK but yes i do agree that it should be fixed but it does mean that the games is broken because it takes a while to rank up. So to anyone out there who thinks GoW2 is broken i have to say that they are not a true Gears fan.
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#19 jameeler91
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OK anyone who thinks that the multiplayer for gears of war 2 is messed up then they aren't a real gears fan. Gears is one of the more tactical shooters out there. You have to talk with your team to help kill the other because of all the cool unique features that they added. If they were to reduce the time of the smoke grenade stun it would be just as worthless as it was in the first gears. Also the ranking system is OK but yes i do agree that it should be fixed but it does mean that the games is broken because it takes a while to rank up. So to anyone out there who thinks GoW2 is broken i have to say that they are not a true Gears fan.Thinkin2little


I really don't want to keep this thread alive, even though it is only 2 days old.
To the guy im quoting, it's not the fact that smokes leave you stunned for so long, it's the fact that the duration is different almost every single time.
It's true. Gears was meant to be a tactical game. EPIC clearly stated that before and buffed the Lancer to put more emphasis on cover. But still, there are way too many things they need to fix, and with the new title update ( the third one if im not mistaken) will fix a few problems with the game.

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#20 impl0sion
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If you compare gears2 to halo ou can see how broken it is. Sure halo lags every now and then but it is rare, and 95% of the time it doesn't lag. Gears of war lags ALL the time. I know there are some people in america who don't get lag but here in europe it is terrible. Also the matchmaking takes way too long and the ranking system is ridiculous because you can't see your own progress. I look forward to seeing their xp system. The map pack is way too expensive, i didn't buy it and i won't buy the next one, And smoke grenades are broken because they only effect the thrower and the opponent, not the thrower's team mates. Bottom line: Gears1 had better multiplayer. I like everything else about gears 2 better though: Horde mode, better campaign etc.