What should I get, Pro or Scorpio?

Wondering what's the better investment, scorpio or pro? I hear a lot about how the pro is half assed and isn't worth the $400 price tag, and how the scorpio has no games but I actually enjoy gears, halo, forza. Also, what's the best cheap 4k tv that can take advantage of these consoles?

Looking for objective input.

IMO there's a few factors. What systems do you currently own? If none, then what games do you prefer (exclusives). Do you have a decent gaming PC? What system are your friends on if you're into multiplayer games? If you're leaning towards the Pro, I'd wait just a bit for a price drop. I can't help you with TVs other than saying one 4k does not equal a different 4k. Also, you figure out size, you need to know where you'll be sitting while playing. If you're sitting somewhat far away, a 55" 4k would be a waste of money....

If you want to skip all that, like I said, buy the system that the games are on. Pro is by no means a slow system. X is more powerful but mostly just on the resolution side, which you can compare some on YouTube and see there's very little difference.

If you care about graphics, and doesn't care to play exclusive games that has or about to flop, scorpio for sure. But if you are about about awesome exclusives and gameplay, then Pro is the console you should get.

The Pro has many more and better regarded games (check Metacritic, the PS4 has 100+ games above 75 score more than the X1 has) and some of the better must-play games of this gen are exclusive/console exclusive to PS4. Also the difference in quality between both machines is not enough to justify the extra cost of the X1 IMO, most people won't notice any significant differences.

Though, if Halo, Gears, Forza is a must for you and you don't have a PC then I guess the X1 has points in its favor for you.

@joshrmeyer: I'm sitting about 8-10 feet away. I have a 1080p tv right now, but I saw a TCL 55" 4k with great reviews for about $600.

I'll be honest, I mostly play multiplats. The PS4 and Xbox exclusives are pretty even to me, and they both have upcoming games that I want to play.

Get the Scorpio to experience proper next gen graphics and 4K gaming. Then you can pick up a regular PS4(non pro) for around $200(if you shop around) to take care of the exclusives.

PRO for the games, X for da power!

If you enjoy halo gear and forza and you dont have a PC in order to play those titles already isnt the choice obvious ? There are alot of deals you can search online also for 4K TVs.

With a 4K television, I would go with a brand name such as a Samsung, LG, Sharp or maybe a Vizio. Make sure it has HDR. Maybe go for a 50" instead to save some dough.

If you care about graphics and games then go for Scorpio. If you care about Sony exclusives, then go for the regular PS4 for $200. Almost exactly the same as the PS4 Pro and half the price.

@getslaidalot:

"Looking for objective input"

You're at the right place.

While not sure I think the X1 and the X1x can multitask, so you can game, while listening to music, or listen to a podcast, the PS4 and PS4Pro can not, which is sadly one of the reasons I don't use mine as much as I could.

The X1X will have a 4K blu ray drive I think, which the Pro does not.

While people will make claims about exclusives, the life blood of both consoles are 3rd party, with 1st party games being a letdown in general this gen. So I am not sure how much weight I would put on 1st party (second party is different though)

The Pro has some half assed aspects for sure, but it does run games better then the PS4 in most cases with the "boost mode" activated, a few games had issues with it, but I have not felt any. The pro however is mostly just for increased resolution, and little else.

So far it seems that the Sony has better 2nd party support, while it is a taste question, you might look into what support the PS4 Pro has, it is mainly Japanese Devs, but there is more then a few odd goodies. Which does make the library better then the X1. If you do not care about the mostly Japanese oddity games, then this point is rather moot.

Neither of them will likely run games much better then one another, a few framerates here and there, but do not expect many games to run at 60 fps on the X1 and 30 on the Pro, the CPU in these consoles are really weak. The X1X can likely get a better image quality up, and has a beefier GPU. But outside of that, I think you might as well just flip a coin.

As for the cheapest 4K tv? Eeeh I would make sure HDR is compatible with the consoles, and the most basic tech is in working order, before you look at a pricetag, Most of the first gen of 4K TV's are pretty bad for gaming, with input lag and not a single standard in processing and other such issues. But you are best to visit sites that deals in TV's for better info I think.

@getslaidalot: Here's my advice if you don't need the best of everything right now which is already obsolete anyways... Get an Xbox one S and a PS4 slim and that TCL if it got great reviews. Remember the difference in visuals will be most noticed with an upgraded tv rather than a upgraded console. The S has everything the X has minus the extra power. So you'll have a 4k Blu-ray player with the S and a PS4 systems for any exclusives(which are a ton). Anyone telling you to get the X don't understand your situation. That's a good system if you have a $1500+ tv, and the best sound system that supports atmos.(S might have that also anyways, not sure)

If you were about to spend a couple of hundred of bucks you would probably do your own research.

Since you are interested in investing in a 4k TV, only the Xbox One X will provide you the full benefits of 4k whether it's 4k gaming and 4k entertainment since it's more a true 4k machine than the Pro will ever be.

Well since you enjoy those games then I would recommend the Xbox One X especially if you want to play physical 4K UHD blu-ray movies as well.

Thanks guys, I do not have a gaming PC. Those Xbox exclusives that are available on PC, I was under the impression that a PC gamer cannot play against an XBox gamer on the same game. If that's the case then it's a big factor swaying me towards the xbox, because I still have a lot of friends on the 360 that are waiting for me to upgrade to the X1.

And by the way, this is the TV I was looking at, would it be good for gaming?

4k tv

This is my research.

Get a PC the xbox one X has no exclusives,and as a bonus you get xbox live free,oh and you can use your xbox one or PS4 controller.

Otherwise get a XBO X since you don't seem to enjoy anything on PS4 to even name a game..lol

Pro. Better exclusives, multiplats will still look roughly the same on both systems and Sony gets exclusive content for most 3rd party games.

Bloodborne was good, Uncharted as well.

If you play 3rd party games mainly and want the system that will run them the best and with the best graphics get an X. Easy enough!

The choice is obvious.

Well this is easy. Get a Pro now, and a X1X this time next year when they have some great looking things for it to enjoy.

Lol... "better exclusives" is completely subjective.

And as for "look roughly the same"...

Depends what you want...

PS4 Pro would offer a wider variety of games, and the majority of the benefit of a 4k tv .. most people here pretend its some sort of godsend, and it sure looks good with TV/Movies .... but bare in mind, when you are getting 4k on a gaming machine, you are making a sacrifice elsewhere that could likely look better than having 4k at all... so who really wins other than marketing?

4K Blu Rays are ridiculously priced currently, and not many of them... the adaption is alot slower than Blu ray, for the obvious reason that 1080p is still more than "good enough" for most people....

By the time your 4k tv is fully utilized... a 4K player will be cheap.

none the less, comes down to games... Halo has grown stale, Gears was nothing more than average from day one, Forza is on PC.... Destiny has practically replaced Halo in relevancy and is multiplat.

So to me, PS4 Pro seems like the no brainer, as a 4K tv owner... it's not the most important thing in the world....

"Objective input" in System Wars? Riiiiiiight.

Now, if you had said something like "subjective gifs", well, you'd be in a better position.

No reason for pro. Regular PS4 and X1X also a Switch.

Uncharted are boring, gran tourismo is one of many racing sims now. What else is there? Ratchet and clank? Take someone else's daughter to work games like last of us and the new gow? You don't need 1440pro to play them.

Go PC and PS4 Pro.

Xbone has no games and its "exclusives" are mostly trash and has-been franchises.

With a PS4 pro you get access to Sony exclusives which are some of the best in the industry and with a PC you get access to the best looking multiplats and exclusives. You also get access to the best version of Xbox "exclusives", if that's your thing, without having to pay for XBL.

Just be smart and get a Gaming PC.

Well you have to pick whatever console has the games you like. I went with a ps4 slim because it gets the exclusives I like and nearly all if not all the 3rd party multiplats xbox gets. I think you should get an Xbox since you like their first party. I'd pick it too if it got a bit more japanese game support.

Neither. Get the PS4.

Sony's announced it's not in their interests to follow an iterative model with their consoles, so personally I'd be a bit wary about buying PS4 at this late stage - I say late, but I have no idea when they've got obsolescence planned finally for the PS4 line and catalogue.

I've heard PS4 Pro does a half decent pseudo-4k effect, and it has a turbo button too, so if the purse strings are tight it's always an option, but support for native 4k is looking a bit scant. I don't know how far Sony team is working to update visuals to take advantage of the upgraded hardware like XBox team is, so I can't really comment there, but early signs from X1X are encouraging on that front. The UHD BR drive's a nice addition on XB, if you're into that kind of thing or your network's a bit spotty for streaming 4k films.

For me, it would be a question of budget - if I wanted, and had the money for a 4k tv and console combo, I'd go with X1X, because I think I'd probably want to experience some true, native 4k content on my new TV. If it had to be Sony, I'd probably wait until they released an actual 4k console.

@hrt_rulz01: Dont listen to this fool OP. Anyone with two eyes can see Playstation clearly has more cinematic and quality franchises.

That being said if you can live without Naughty Dog, I highly reccomend a gaming PC;

1. Steam Sales

2. Free Online + 20x better than PSN and XBL put together

3. Free mods (Skins, weapons etc.)

4. Cheaper in the long run.

5. Steam has classics that never die (TF2, L4D, Portal, Half Life).

6. Sourcemod

7. More profile customization

8. Trading cards + levels

Steam is just overall a better experience.

@getslaidalot: MS is suppose to be teaming up with Samsung for some X1X TV bundles

As someone who mainly plays PC games, I would say a PS4 pro.

Which one is likely to be better, red dead 2 on ps4 or red dead 2 on x1x?

@getslaidalot: The Pro and the Xbox One X do the same thing. They both play some native 4K games, some "dynamic" 4K games and upscale other game graphics. Both play games at higher frame rates and resolution. Just look at the games currently on the console and future games and get the console with the games you want to play.

Wow OP seems completely open to either option, and has no agenda whatsoever.

I think the Xbox One has a pretty sweet library. No Crash trilogy, no Bloodborne, no No Man's Sky, no Uncharted, no Nioh, no Last of Us, no Last Guardian, and no Spiderman.

But Halo MCC and Rare Replay are great compilations, and with BC you have access to a lot of franchises and a lot of great games.

Well I'm beginning to lean towards one of the choices, just need to determine a couple factors.

In all honesty, I would get an Xbox one x, and wait to get a 4k tv. Pretty soon, qled and oled tvs will be pretty cheap, so I would just wait it out if i were you.

1X is more powerful etc. but it should be about the games that interest you over specs. Switch is the least powerful by a lot and it has 2-3 of the best games this year/gen. Food for thought...

Also Its not like Pro games suddenly look like rubbish just because the 1X is more powerful. All these mega PC's haven't stopped Uncharted 4 and HZD from being some of the best looking games ever.

I have a Scorpio Edition PO but still considering picking up a Pro as I want to play God of War, Spider Man, GT Sport and Days Gone plus all these stuff I missed since I sold my regular PS4 after UC4.

Game selection should drive your decision-making first and foremost, followed by total cost.

TBH, the capability of each machine shouldn't be an overriding concern. Neither machine pumps out native 4K and even when they do, it's heavily compromised by overall performance and will continue to be for some time. The most tangible benefits will come out of performance options, not higher resolutions. And from personal experience, being able to play games (finally!) at 1080p/60fps has vastly improved my console gaming experience (in spite of it needing to go further).

Buy both.

$900 + 55" TLC P Series for $600 = $1500

I think I've made my decision.

@getslaidalot: And it is?