Iwata: The Wii U's graphics won't lag behind its next-gen competitors like Wii.

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#1 ShadowDeathX
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Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said that the difference in graphics between the Wii U and its competitor's upcoming consoles will be less than that between the Wii and the Xbox 360 and PS3.

During a Q&A session with investors , Iwata explained, "Other companies might launch a next-generation console with more power, but we don't necessarily think that the difference between the Wii U and such console will be as drastic as what you felt it was between the Wii and the other consoles because there will be fewer and fewer differentiators in graphics."

"Naturally some consumers are very sensitive about such a small difference in graphics so that we will make efforts to make the most of the performance of the Wii U to keep up with technological innovations and not to make the system out-of-date soon."

He admitted that some corners would have to be cut here because the Wii U is essentially two pieces of hardware in one between the GamePad and the console, so Nintendo needs to show restraint here to keep costs down for consumers.

"We are including both a video game console and a handheld device, if we were not careful about how luxurious both of them were, we could end up having to offer the price of the two hardware systems combined, which would not be an acceptable price for the consumers. We had to design it by balancing the performance and the costs."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-07-03-iwata-the-wii-us-graphics-wont-fall-short-of-its-next-gen-competitors-like-the-wii

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#2 ShadowDeathX
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So are we going to have another; PS2 = Wii U Gamceube = Next Xbox Xbox = PS4 Generation?
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#3 zarshack
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This is all based on the assumption that the next gen consoles from MS/Sony arent going to be much more powerful than what we have now though isnt it?

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#4 super600  Moderator
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It looks like that may happen next gen, but the fanboys will try to deny that.

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#5 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]So are we going to have another; PS2 = Wii U Gamceube = Next Xbox Xbox = PS4 Generation?

I guess that'd be the ideal scenario for Nintendo...
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Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said that the difference in graphics between the Wii U and its competitor's upcoming consoles will be less than that between the Wii and the Xbox 360 and PS3.

ShadowDeathX

How the hell would he know? Microsoft and Sony haven't even revealed their next gen consoles yet.

Sounds like he's just trying to reassure Wii-only owners who felt like they got burnt.

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#7 ocidax
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It looks like that may happen next gen, but the fanboys will try to deny that.

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thats true
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#8 Phazevariance
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He says the words "we don't necesarily think" as in "it could happen but we don't expect it to". Also, while next generation whill improve on graphcis over this generation, i'm sure next generation will bring us much higher quality and more complex AI and physics effects. So while the graphics may not be too different, AI and physics may be a huge difference. The bad thing is that those two aspects alone can change a game entirely where as graphics differences won't affect gameplay as much. Still a safer bet to wait for the next gen MS and SOny consoles.

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#9 phonemug
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PS4 is going to be a Cloud streaming box so he's not far off.

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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said that the difference in graphics between the Wii U and its competitor's upcoming consoles will be less than that between the Wii and the Xbox 360 and PS3.

Tikeio

How the hell would he know? Microsoft and Sony haven't even revealed their next gen consoles yet.

Sounds like he's just trying to reassure Wii-only owners who felt like they got burnt.

Corporate espionage? :o
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So are we going to have another; PS2 = Wii U Gamceube = Next Xbox Xbox = PS4 Generation?ShadowDeathX

I think it will be more like

Dreamcast= Wii U

Ps2= nextbox

gamecube= ps4

Just in terms of graphical capabilties. Not length of time or success of the consoles

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#12 ionusX
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likely ninty is planning a sleeper card. the gpu will be locked down making it an hd 4730. when next-gen rolls around he will haul out a firmware update unlock the gpu chip to a 4770 and call it the second coming XD. and the sheep will be amazed at ninty much like how cows were amazed when the psn magically started working again XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U90rSXHlkhw

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if a console player cares about graphics, then they shouldn't be a console player.
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#14 rjdofu
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Isn't this pretty obvious?

I mean, it's unrealistic to expect the same jump from last gen to this gen to happen again. There'll be an improvement, but no way in hell it's gonna be that huge, if Sony or MS wanna maintain their console cost.

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Talk is cheap Nintendo.

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if a console player cares about graphics, then they shouldn't be a console player.BrunoBRS

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#17 ionusX
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]if a console player only cares about graphics, then they shouldn't be a videogame player.Bigboi500

lol fixed for your arrogancy

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]if a console player cares about graphics, then they shouldn't be a console player.Bigboi500

This is absolutely the point. Pixel counting does you no favours.

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#19 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]if a console player cares about graphics, then they shouldn't be a console player.Bigboi500

Well, games performance/total experience does somewhat include graphics. And when people care about graphics, its not the only thing they care about, unlike most hermits here; so...

This is absolutely the point. Pixel counting does you no favours.

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Except the fact that graphics is not 100% about pixel counting.
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lol fixed for your arrogancy

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lol fixed = lol stupid?

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#21 Chemical_Viking
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

rjdofu

Well, games performance/total experience does somewhat include graphics. And when people care about graphics, its not the only thing they care about, unlike most hermits here; so...

This is absolutely the point. Pixel counting does you no favours.

Chemical_Viking


Except the fact that graphics is not 100% about pixel counting.

But when people are arguing back and forth about it for pages it often often is. Aesthetics rarely comes in to it.

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#22 WarTornRuston
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From what I have seen they are lagging behind the current gen. I will wait til the actual games come out since I have $450 on a Gamestop card waiting for Wii U's launch thatnks to Microsoft's crap hardware and terrible service.

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Reggie confirmed at the last E3 that Nintendo's console graphics will always be behind the others. :cool:

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After his lie about Wii graphics making you say wow in 2005 I'll take this with an unhealthy pinch of salt.
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#25 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"] Well, games performance/total experience does somewhat include graphics. And when people care about graphics, its not the only thing they care about, unlike most hermits here; so...

[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

This is absolutely the point. Pixel counting does you no favours.

Chemical_Viking


Except the fact that graphics is not 100% about pixel counting.

But when people are arguing back and forth about it for pages it often often is. Aesthetics rarely comes in to it.

Yeah, but since aesthetics is almost entirely opinion based, that's what people resort to do. Also, the only thing resolution is worth considering is when comparing 2 multiplat version. Because aesthetics is identical between 2 versions, which one perform noticeably better (with better resolution, framerate, AA etc.) is the better version. There's absolutely no point in comparing graphics of two different games since you have to count aesthetics to the equation too.
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#26 Click_Clock
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I read somewhere the PS4 will be at least 16 times more powerful than the WiiU, which is why the PS4 is taking a while to come into market.

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#28 FPSfan1985
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No unreal 4 on Wii U already craps all over this claim.
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#29 rjdofu
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Wow people should really read the OP again.

He said that the graphics difference between Wii U and next gen PS & Xbox won't be as big as this gen Wii vs the PS3 and 360.

It's confirmed that the Wii U is at least as graphically competent as this gen HD twins and the Wii is a little bit better than PS2. Disagreeing with Iwata statement means that you believe that the next gen PS&Xbox will provide the same jump in graphics from this gen as from last gen to this gen. This is unrealistic as there's a limit how graphics can be improved after all these years.

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#30 ocidax
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No unreal 4 on Wii U already craps all over this claim.FPSfan1985
Unrea 4 can run in every system. So, you are wrong
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#31 rjdofu
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No unreal 4 on Wii U already craps all over this claim.FPSfan1985
So difference between Unreal 4 and current gen console = difference between Wii and PS3/XBox360? I don't think so.
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#32 DJ-Lafleur
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Hmmm we will see. who knows what Sony and Microsoft's next consoles will offer.

That being said I don't really care if the Wii-U ends up being the best-looking console next gen or not. The fact that it'll be graphically better than the Wii and be in HD is all I really care about as far as graphics are concerned.

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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]No unreal 4 on Wii U already craps all over this claim.ocidax
Unrea 4 can run in every system. So, you are wrong

That is there goal sure. But as of today UE4 is only running on the PC.
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#34 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]No unreal 4 on Wii U already craps all over this claim.rjdofu
So difference between Unreal 4 and current gen console = difference between Wii and PS3/XBox360? I don't think so.

Could be have to wait and see. If they can get a game that looks like that tech demo to run at 60 frames and 1080p on the PS4 or 720 then yes it would be.
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#35 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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I just think it is hilarious when talking about the next XBOX or PS4, the fanboys of these companies think that the next generation of consoles from MS and Sony are going to play games at 1080p, 60 fps, have 10 GB RAM and have a graphics card equivilent to that of a Nvidia GTX 560 Ti. Sorry fanboys.....AINT GONNA HAPPEN!!! Im betting the difference between the WiiU, Next XBOX and PS4 as far as gaming visuals go will be that of XBOX Vs. Gamecube!!
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#36 FPSfan1985
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I just think it is hilarious when talking about the next XBOX or PS4, the fanboys of these companies think that the next generation of consoles from MS and Sony are going to play games at 1080p, 60 fps, have 10 GB RAM and have a graphics card equivilent to that of a Nvidia GTX 560 Ti. Sorry fanboys.....AINT GONNA HAPPEN!!! Im betting the difference between the WiiU, Next XBOX and PS4 as far as gaming visuals go will be that of XBOX Vs. Gamecube!!ShoTTyMcNaDeS
You criticize them for speculating yet you speculate yourself? Weird.
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#37 Tessellation
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ps4 (according to rumors) isn't going to be a console,so we can discard that crap from the console ''category''
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#38 loosingENDS
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Actually the way WiiU graphics are i expect the diference will be far bigger this time

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I just think it is hilarious when talking about the next XBOX or PS4, the fanboys of these companies think that the next generation of consoles from MS and Sony are going to play games at 1080p, 60 fps, have 10 GB RAM and have a graphics card equivilent to that of a Nvidia GTX 560 Ti. Sorry fanboys.....AINT GONNA HAPPEN!!! Im betting the difference between the WiiU, Next XBOX and PS4 as far as gaming visuals go will be that of XBOX Vs. Gamecube!!ShoTTyMcNaDeS

LOL

A GTX 560 will be ancient history by the time xbox 720 releases

Would be like Xenos using 2003 technology LOL OLOL

Xenos used 2006 tech, xbox 720 will use 2014 tech and will be closer to GTX 790 or better

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I read somewhere the PS4 will be at least 16 times more powerful than the WiiU, which is why the PS4 is taking a while to come into market.

Click_Clock
seems legit
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]if a console player only cares about graphics, then they shouldn't be a videogame player.ionusX

lol fixed for your arrogancy

Although I agree, that's a very unpopular opinion you have there :p
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#42 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]I just think it is hilarious when talking about the next XBOX or PS4, the fanboys of these companies think that the next generation of consoles from MS and Sony are going to play games at 1080p, 60 fps, have 10 GB RAM and have a graphics card equivilent to that of a Nvidia GTX 560 Ti. Sorry fanboys.....AINT GONNA HAPPEN!!! Im betting the difference between the WiiU, Next XBOX and PS4 as far as gaming visuals go will be that of XBOX Vs. Gamecube!!loosingENDS

LOL

A GTX 560 will be ancient history by the time xbox 720 releases

Would be like Xenos using 2003 technology LOL OLOL

Xenos used 2006 tech, xbox 720 will use 2014 tech and will be closer to GTX 790 or better

Whadyusayboutmycard?
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#43 rjdofu
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Actually the way WiiU graphics are i expect the diference will be far bigger this time

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'cus you've seen all of its potential?
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#44 Bigboi500
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I read somewhere the PS4 will be at least 16 times more powerful than the WiiU, which is why the PS4 is taking a while to come into market.

Click_Clock

I read somewhere that PS4 will be cloud gaming only, no physical drive. I also read it has been in development since circa 2010.

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#45 GD1551
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if a console player cares about graphics, then they shouldn't be a console player.BrunoBRS

Ridiculous statement.

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that doesn't make me feel real good at all :(

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#47 MFDOOM1983
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"Wii graphics will make you say wow" Iwata Yeah, how about you show us something that doesn't look like a 360 game.
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#48 Kingpin0114
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Sounds like wishful thinking. We will find out soon enough though.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]if a console player cares about graphics, then they shouldn't be a console player.GD1551

Ridiculous statement.

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#50 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]if a console player cares about graphics, then they shouldn't be a console player.Bigboi500

Some people prefer not to lower their standards for next gen consoles. Sheep are used to it by now though.