IPs Microsoft missed out on owning.

^Microsoft distributed Dance Central for MTV Games/Harmonix.

Microsoft also missed out on buying developers such as Bizarre Creations, Harmonix, and Bioware to add to their extremely lacking 1st party repertoire.

When it comes down to it, it really doesn't matter, micrsoft is selling consoles so why invest 100 million into a game or studio that may flop.

When it comes down to it, it really doesn't matter, micrsoft is selling consoles so why invest 100 million into a game or studio that may flop.

James161324

None of those flopped, and Microsoft wasted $500 million in advertising for Kinect.

When it comes down to it, it really doesn't matter, micrsoft is selling consoles so why invest 100 million into a game or studio that may flop.

James161324

Yep, I'm sure if they're dead last next gen they'll invest into some new studios.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

When it comes down to it, it really doesn't matter, micrsoft is selling consoles so why invest 100 million into a game or studio that may flop.

Nintendonly

None of those flopped, and Microsoft wasted $500 million in advertising for Kinect.

Still microsoft doesn't see the need to drop money into ip. Then agian at any chance studios will go multiplatform, more people equals more money.

Kinect has sold well so far.

Sony has to put the money into ip as they don't have really anything to fall back on. They have blueray, guess what i can get one for 80 bucks now.

Now here are some IPs Microsoft owns but fail to remember that they own them-

So...what's the point? I think it's better that these developers got to keep the rights to the games that they worked hard to create. That means if the publisher treats them like crap, they can walk away and take the property that they love with them somewhere else. How is this bad?jalexbrown

Truth. It would leave the Nextbox in a better position. As it stands, what will they have for their next console, aside frommultiplats and a half arsed halo attempt?

Sony has to put the money into ip as they don't have really anything to fall back on. They have blueray, guess what i can get one for 80 bucks now.

James161324

They also supply their users free online versus play.

Sony has to put the money into ip as they don't have really anything to fall back on. They have blueray, guess what i can get one for 80 bucks now.

James161324

[QUOTE="James161324"]

Sony has to put the money into ip as they don't have really anything to fall back on. They have blueray, guess what i can get one for 80 bucks now.

Nintendonly

They also supply their users free online versus play.

Once again great, but it awlays a step or two behind xbl.

Xboxs sell becuase of their online.

When it comes down to it, it really doesn't matter, micrsoft is selling consoles so why invest 100 million into a game or studio that may flop.

James161324

[QUOTE="James161324"]

Sony has to put the money into ip as they don't have really anything to fall back on. They have blueray, guess what i can get one for 80 bucks now.

FIipMode

Microsoft barely had any new IPs last gen, either. Phantom Dust is something they should go back to.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

When it comes down to it, it really doesn't matter, micrsoft is selling consoles so why invest 100 million into a game or studio that may flop.

Nintendonly

None of those flopped, and Microsoft wasted $500 million in advertising for Kinect.

The games are still linked to the xbox brand and most probabley won't appear on anyother platform ..... ME2 was a pure karma.

But who cares? most these games suck ..... imo.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

When it comes down to it, it really doesn't matter, micrsoft is selling consoles so why invest 100 million into a game or studio that may flop.

RavenLoud

Its micrsoft why did they relase vista, or why did they close down one of the best pc studios. No one knows.

They knew how to get it out first and thats what has helped their sales, along with some great advertising. I think it shows you don't need an amazing exclusive lineup to do well. Plus price point is big one

Xboxs sell becuase of their online.

James161324

Way to be wrong. Go work in retail- you'll come to find out that people buy the Xbox 360 because it is initially "cheaper" to them. People are easily swayed into buying a PS3 once you explain everything to them, especially once you mention that PSN is free instead of an arbitrary $60 a year.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="James161324"]

Sony has to put the money into ip as they don't have really anything to fall back on. They have blueray, guess what i can get one for 80 bucks now.

Nintendonly

Microsoft barely had any new IPs last gen, either. Phantom Dust is something they should go back to.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

Xboxs sell becuase of their online.

Nintendonly

Way to be wrong. Go work in retail- you'll come to find out that people buy the Xbox 360 because it is initially "cheaper" to them. People are easily swayed into buying a PS3 once you explain everything to them, especially once you mention that PSN is free instead of an arbitrary $60 a year.

that to, but it does sell becuase of the online to certian gamers. If people were so easierly swayed ps3 would be outselling the 360

Mass effect is great.

Gears gets worse each iteration

Alan Wake bored me to tears.

Dance Central ... Looks excellent to be honest.

If people were so easierly swayed ps3 would be outselling the 360James161324

Another issue with retail- nobody has the guts to explain things in great detail.

[QUOTE="James161324"]If people were so easierly swayed ps3 would be outselling the 360Nintendonly

Another issue with retail- nobody has the guts to explain things in great detail.

True, but it doesn't matter to them if they sell 1k ps3 or 360. But if sony advertised better i think it would have done better. Micrsoft advertises to the stupid consumer

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]I thought they owned the Alan Wake IPNintendonly

Well, you thought wrong and like all fanboys, lack the capability to do your own research.

But who cares? most these games suck ..... imo.omho88

They suck to you now since you found out that their future of exclusivity is questionable.

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]I thought they owned the Alan Wake IPNintendonly

Well, you thought wrong and like all fanboys, lack the capability to do your own research.

But who cares? most these games suck ..... imo.omho88

They suck to you now since you found out that their future of exclusivity is questionable.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

When it comes down to it, it really doesn't matter, micrsoft is selling consoles so why invest 100 million into a game or studio that may flop.

Nintendonly

None of those flopped, and Microsoft wasted $500 million in advertising for Kinect.

Cows love to throw around that 500 million number like MS is strapped for cash now...They are making major profits from Kinect, even with the 500 million ad budget

short of alan wake Microsoft wouldn't have been able to buy those IPs why is it you think they could have just plopped down cash and said its ours now...the owner has to okay the purchase.

gears is owned by epic but Microsoft published the first 3 games so bar a name change it wont appear on ps3.
bioware at the time mass effect was made was being in the first stages courted by EA so...

Research and development costs are imaginary. They don't exist.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

Sony has to put the money into ip as they don't have really anything to fall back on. They have blueray, guess what i can get one for 80 bucks now.

FIipMode

and the gen before that. Lemmings seem to forget that Sony has delivered a much better gaming experience than Microsoft. Bet 90% of the 360 fanboys owned a PS1 and PS2.

360 might be just slightly ahead of Sony this gen but the Xbox brand is no where near the level of the Playstation brand.

short of alan wake Microsoft wouldn't have been able to buy those IPs why is it you think they could have just plopped down cash and said its ours now...the owner has to okay the purchase.

gears is owned by epic but Microsoft published the first 3 games so bar a name change it wont appear on ps3.
bioware at the time mass effect was made was being in the first stages courted by EA so...

WilliamRLBaker

With $500 mill being blown on advertising, im not so sure its a case of the owner having to okay the purchase, more a reflection of M$'s priorities in the business and thats advertising >>>>>>>> Live Fees>>>>>>> casual shovelware to sell to the unsuspecting masses >>>>>>>> funding and developing original ips

Good times.

Good times.

Nintendonly

Whoopsie, I forgot this bad boy-

Relevancy your honorDiviniuz

It is quite relevant, my dear fanboy. Sony and Nintendo continued to pump out massive exclusives all of the time.

And they still do.

Whoopsie, I forgot this bad boy-

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"] Relevancy your honorNintendonly

It is quite relevant, my dear fanboy. Sony and Nintendo continued to pump out massive exclusives all of the time.

And they still do.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"]So...what's the point? I think it's better that these developers got to keep the rights to the games that they worked hard to create. That means if the publisher treats them like crap, they can walk away and take the property that they love with them somewhere else. How is this bad?Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

[QUOTE="James161324"]

Sony has to put the money into ip as they don't have really anything to fall back on. They have blueray, guess what i can get one for 80 bucks now.

They also supply their users free online versus play.

Once again great, but it awlays a step or two behind xbl.

Xboxs sell becuase of their online.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

When it comes down to it, it really doesn't matter, micrsoft is selling consoles so why invest 100 million into a game or studio that may flop.

Nintendonly

None of those flopped, and Microsoft wasted $500 million in advertising for Kinect.

they didn't really "waste" 500 mill seeing as how they're getting all back

they don't own alan wake?

if so, that one i think is most likely to come out on ps3.

it'll be like NG2 and Mass Effect all over again.

they need to kick rare's ass so i dust off my 360 and hopefully play a new jet force gemini and/or another perfect dark game. seriously, fellas. seriously.yellosnolvr