I don't see what the deal is. Square-Enix has been good to me! (56k! Nooo!)

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#1 NAPK1NS
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Listen, I understand that SE has seen a decline in quality over the many years that they have been developing games. Recently there have been a lot of cash in games and nasty rush projects (eew, Infinite Undiscovory). The company is still making high quality games even though they make some stupid ones, too. But come on, how can you deny these titles?

Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII:

An interesting take on level progression, an emotional story line and a the Materia Fusion mechanic make Crisis Core one of the PSPs best.

Dissidia: Final Fantasy:

This is a massive handheld game (lolz teh oxymoron!!1) that has more content then most console games this generation. I have a solid 37 hours in it and I don't have plans on stopping any time soon.

Final Fantasy IV:

A lot of people complain that SE relies too heavily on remakes. Still, it's hard to deny a complete revamping of FFIV with new areas, voice acting, cutscenes and complete 3D modeling.

Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift: The sequel to the Game Boy Advance game is jam-packed with content, looks better a more vibrant and has more of the strategic gameplay that makes the gameplay so rewarding.

Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions: A perfect example of how a ****c can still shine. New cutscenes, a mature and expanded story made this even better then the original.

Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days: Reviews are saying that 358/2 Days is another content packed adventure with a good story to tell. Monday should be awesome.

The Last Remnant: This was a problematic game with a lot of good ideas. There was a ton of stuff to see and do, just on the first disk alone, the story was interesting enough and the battle system was a neat real time/turn based hybrid.

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#2 campzor
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1 console game...and its not even on the ps3..
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#3 SilverChimera
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I basically hate them and will continue to hate them until they go back to the golden days of the SNES and PS1. IMO nothing SE does now touches games like final fantasy ix, chrono cross, chrono trigger, vagrant story, etc.
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#4 tagyhag
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I agree with all those titles being good except for Crisis Core. I found it to be boringly repetitive (And yet I enjoy the repetitiveness of DW games) And the story was just.....Ew. The graphics were great on the other hand.
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#5 DragonQuestHero
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I've been happy with Square-ENix.


They just need to get Dragon Quest VI out already. Still not even a trailer for it.

I was hoping to have it to help hold me off for Dragon Quest IX, but it looks like we be getting Dragon Quest IX before VI.

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#6 RTUUMM
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1 console game...and its not even on the ps3..campzor
and it floped
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#7 ActicEdge
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All I can say is meh. FFT is awesome granted but more FF7 (even if its great) and FF fighting along with Last Remnant which was alright is hardly SE being good. Where the hell is my Vagrant Story, Xenongears, Parasite Eve, Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, level games?

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#8 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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They've been alright, nothing spectacular.
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The only new game I really enjoyed so far from Square is The World Ends With You. I also loved Final Fantasy IV, Chrono Trigger, and Dragon Quest V but theyre all ports/remakes so I don't think they count.

Crisis Core was okay, mainly because Zack was awesome, but the gameplay and story weren't anything to write home about.

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All I can say is meh. FFT is awesome granted but more FF7 (even if its great) and FF fighting along with Last Remnant which was alright is hardly SE being good. Where the hell is my Vagrant Story, Xenongears, Parasite Eve, Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, level games?

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That all died when they made Unlimited Saga.
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#11 MikeT072
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War of the Lions would be one of the only reasons I might get a PSP. Is it that different from the original besides a couple of new classes?
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#12 NAPK1NS
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The only new game I really enjoyed so far from Square is The World Ends With You. I also loved Final Fantasy IV, Chrono Trigger, and Dragon Quest V but theyre all ports/remakes so I don't think they count.

Crisis Core was okay, mainly because Zack was awesome, but the gameplay and story weren't anything to write home about.

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Ooh! I forgot that one. Probably because I haven't played it. :P
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War of the Lions would be one of the only reasons I might get a PSP. Is it that different from the original besides a couple of new classes?MikeT072
Better translated script I believe. And considering how awesome the story is, that alone is worth it.
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War of the Lions would be one of the only reasons I might get a PSP. Is it that different from the original besides a couple of new classes?MikeT072
Cutscenes (which have a really nice sketch drawing look to them) more quests, co-op and versus multiplayer. The story is just more expanded then the original.
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#15 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

The only new game I really enjoyed so far from Square is The World Ends With You. I also loved Final Fantasy IV, Chrono Trigger, and Dragon Quest V but theyre all ports/remakes so I don't think they count.

Crisis Core was okay, mainly because Zack was awesome, but the gameplay and story weren't anything to write home about.

NAPK1NS

Ooh! I forgot that one. Probably because I haven't played it. :P

For shame, TWEWY is the single best thin Square has done this gen. :P

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#16 zarshack
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SE hasnt been good to me. Although i will lovingly remember all the wonderful games Squaresoft has brought me forever.

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#17 NAPK1NS
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

The only new game I really enjoyed so far from Square is The World Ends With You. I also loved Final Fantasy IV, Chrono Trigger, and Dragon Quest V but theyre all ports/remakes so I don't think they count.

Crisis Core was okay, mainly because Zack was awesome, but the gameplay and story weren't anything to write home about.

Lionheart08

Ooh! I forgot that one. Probably because I haven't played it. :P

For shame, TWEWY is the single best thin Square has done this gen. :P

Yeah, I have been hearing about that. Japan only or something?
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"] Ooh! I forgot that one. Probably because I haven't played it. :PNAPK1NS

For shame, TWEWY is the single best thin Square has done this gen. :P

Yeah, I have been hearing about that. Japan only or something?

What? TWEWY released ages ago. Was nominated for GOTY last year I believe...
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#19 NAPK1NS
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

For shame, TWEWY is the single best thin Square has done this gen. :P

siLVURcross

Yeah, I have been hearing about that. Japan only or something?

What? TWEWY released ages ago. Was nominated for GOTY last year I believe...

Ahh! Really!? Man, I am ashamed. Research begins! :D

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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

For shame, TWEWY is the single best thin Square has done this gen. :P

siLVURcross

Yeah, I have been hearing about that. Japan only or something?

What? TWEWY released ages ago. Was nominated for GOTY last year I believe...

Such a good game. I'm almost finished it 100% and its not even my copy.

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#21 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"] Ooh! I forgot that one. Probably because I haven't played it. :PNAPK1NS

For shame, TWEWY is the single best thin Square has done this gen. :P

Yeah, I have been hearing about that. Japan only or something?

It came out to U.S in March..of last year.

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="NAPK1NS"] Yeah, I have been hearing about that. Japan only or something?ActicEdge

What? TWEWY released ages ago. Was nominated for GOTY last year I believe...

Such a good game. I'm almost finished it 100% and its not even my copy.

It's a pretty solid game, I really dig the soundtrack.
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#23 NAPK1NS
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

For shame, TWEWY is the single best thin Square has done this gen. :P

Lionheart08

Yeah, I have been hearing about that. Japan only or something?

It came out to U.S in March..of last year.

My lack of sleep... it's catching up with me. T... the W... world E... ends W... with Y... you. Wow, NAPK1NS a-la hxc self-owned.
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"] What? TWEWY released ages ago. Was nominated for GOTY last year I believe...siLVURcross

Such a good game. I'm almost finished it 100% and its not even my copy.

It's a pretty solid game, I really dig the soundtrack.

I have the one star and transformation on my ipod lol

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Such a good game. I'm almost finished it 100% and its not even my copy.

ActicEdge

It's a pretty solid game, I really dig the soundtrack.

I have the one star and transformation on my ipod lol

Hmm, I don't think have those songs unfortunately, but still damn awesome. Here are my favs:

Long Dream

Twister

Calling

Deja Vu

Three-Minutes Clapping

Game Over

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#26 IppoTenma
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FFCC:MlaaDL needs to be put on the list.
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War of the Lions would be one of the only reasons I might get a PSP. Is it that different from the original besides a couple of new classes?MikeT072
New translation and Valkyria Chronicles - esque custscenes with (great) voice acting exclusive to the western release of the game.

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#28 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"] It's a pretty solid game, I really dig the soundtrack.siLVURcross

I have the one star and transformation on my ipod lol

Hmm, I don't think have those songs unfortunately, but still damn awesome. Here are my favs:

Long Dream

Twister

Calling

Deja Vu

Three-Minutes Clapping

Game Over

I'm a big fan of the wole soundtrack honestly. Its really unique.

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#29 WasntAvailable
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People exagerate. SE are still pretty decent, just not quite as good as they used to be. Lets be honest though, when they were releasing as many classics as they were in such a short period of timethey were eventually going to run out of steam a bit. The same with Ubisoft. People don't understand that golden eras only happen once. That's why we call it a golden era. If they came back better than ever we would call it the platinum era, and that NEVER happens.

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#30 double_heist
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They're doing well on handhelds but not so much on consoles. The Japanese market has shifted to handhelds, so that's where their priority focus is probably.
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Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII: A highly repetative easy game that requires no skill whatsoever, all you need is Cure 1 materia and the X button to complete the game making the Materia Fusion somewhat useless the entire game. A storyline that is just plain random an abit stupid with the Angeal monsters and the Genesis clones, Angeal betrayal, Angeal brief return. It all had no direction whatsoever. This game had nothing on the greatness that is FF7 for the PS1.

Dissidia: Final Fantasy: Decent at best. In the end though it's just one really shallow fighter thats presented well, even more so that Smash Brothers with a really crappy storyline that makes no sense.

Final Fantasy IV: Yes a good game but the fact is Squaresoft made this game at heart, Square-Enix just made a better clone.

Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift: Trash, FF Tactics for the PS1 laughs in it's face.

Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions: Yes this game is a masterpiece. SquareEnix didn't make this though. Squaresoft did.

The Last Remnant: Incredibly random combat system, I really couldn't get into this game whatsoever. Not to mention the framerate was utter crap, the characters screamed genericness and so did the story. Gaybolg lol.

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

All I can say is meh. FFT is awesome granted but more FF7 (even if its great) and FF fighting along with Last Remnant which was alright is hardly SE being good. Where the hell is my Vagrant Story, Xenongears, Parasite Eve, Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, level games?

That all died when they made Unlimited Saga.

Thanks for reminding me that terrible games exists.
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#33 AssassinFonce
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Absolutely fail for mention Last Remnant. You could have included Infinite Undiscovery as I thought the game rocked (though technically by tri-ace), but Last Remnant is just os boring. Not broken like some say, just boring.
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Good for handhelds but poo for consoles.
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Call me blasphemous, but Final Fantasy XII was a good JRPG. It has problems, but it was a good JRPG.

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#36 NAPK1NS
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Call me blasphemous, but Final Fantasy XII was a good JRPG. It has problems, but it was a good JRPG.

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*sigh* ... here it goes: Final Fantasy XII is on my top 5 list. It's so goddamn good.
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#37 campzor
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Call me blasphemous, but Final Fantasy XII was a good JRPG. It has problems, but it was a good JRPG.

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in terms of what? gameplay , rpg elements? sure maybe.. but out of all the ff games i have played it has the worst story and the characters are sooooo boring and unlikeable imo... dont know wtf they were thinking with the character development.
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#38 Dead-Memories
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Final Fantasy IV was the only JRPG i could actually get into and enjoy.

Seems like a decent list though, can't see too interested in SE's work as a whole though.

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#39 HGAT
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I dunno why they don't slap;

FF:Tactics PS1 onto PSP/DS

Chrono Trigger & Chrono Cross onto PSP/DS

So people don't have to play themsolelyon emulators on their pc's anymore.

Sequels to Vagrant Story and Parasite Eve also along with slapping the originals on PSP maybe would be cool.

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#40 -Oath
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You already know my thoughts on S-Es recent games.

CC was bad, Dissidia was underwhelming, so was 358, FFT: WoTL was fantastic, Tactics A2 was ok yada yada yada.

Their not too shabby.

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#41 BioShockOwnz
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They've been decent on handhelds (nothing special, though), but pretty horrid on home consoles.