Bayonetta: Whos Fault is it for the bad port?

Bayonetta Who's Fault is it for the crappy port?

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SEGA: Sega, was heavily criticized for the poor port when the demo was first shown at the trade shows. With Bayonetta under the gun, Sega should have stepped up their efforts to make the game a perfect port. However, the retail version suggests that Sega simply wasn't interested in saving face. The performances are almost polar. They proved that not only were they not interested in spending extra money to ensure quality, but also that they're quite fine with ripping off the public by charging the same amount for an inferior copy.

PlatinumGames: But is it just as much Platinum Games Fault as it is SEGA's? Platinum Games were obviously happy with the job SEGA had done to port their game across to the PS3, otherwise they surely would have not released it, they have also stated that they have overseen both versions back in September. However Platinum Games continued silence over the matter is very disconcerting & ultimately detrimental to their name as an independent games developer. http://forums.platinumgames.com/showthread.php?t=649&page=34

Sony: Sony should have stepped in for quality control. You can only blame the publishers for so long before you start wondering why a company would allow for a poor port to be on their console. It's a simple concept know as quality control.

Comparisons

Ps3: Unstable 30FPS. Xbox 360: 60FPS

Ps3: 42% of torn frames. Xbox 360: 13% of torn frames

Ps3: Washed Graphics. Xbox 360: More Sharp colourful

Ps3: No install option. Xbox 360: Install

Ps3: Load times on everything including pause and Items. Xbox 360: 1/3 the load times between stages no load times on items or pause.

Sony, and the developers are at fault. 50/50 imo.

Sony and Sega, the devs aren't at fault here.

EDITED For accuracy.

Sony imo..............the game is just horrible on the ps3

Platinum had nothing to do with the actual porting job and Sega is the company controlling the IP and doing the port. Pretty obvious Sega is at fault.Skittles_McGee

Didn't sega give it to another dev to do?

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Platinum had nothing to do with the actual porting job and Sega is the company controlling the IP and doing the port. Pretty obvious Sega is at fault.Espada12

Didn't sega give it to another dev to do?

I think is SEGA's fault, they should have fix the little problems like load times, for me that is the major issue.

Quick question, for those saying Sony, how is it Sony's fault? They literally stepped in during the last month of development. It takes a long time to fix almost completely broken code.zero_snake99

Making unnecessarily complicated hardware ftl..

Quick question, for those saying Sony, how is it Sony's fault? They literally stepped in during the last month of development. It takes a long time to fix almost completely broken code.zero_snake99

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]Quick question, for those saying Sony, how is it Sony's fault? They literally stepped in during the last month of development. It takes a long time to fix almost completely broken code.Espada12

Making unnecessarily complicated hardware ftl..

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]Quick question, for those saying Sony, how is it Sony's fault? They literally stepped in during the last month of development. It takes a long time to fix almost completely broken code.DontBeHatin1983

Making unnecessarily complicated hardware ftl..

It was a 360 exclusive first.. sega then upped and decided they wanted it on PS3 as well.

[QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Making unnecessarily complicated hardware ftl..

It was a 360 exclusive first.. sega then upped and decided they wanted it on PS3 as well.

It's Sega's fault. They forced the port, they developed the port, they didn't fix the problems they made. Platnium Games has no fault, and you can't really blame Sony when Sega was forcing the release.

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]Quick question, for those saying Sony, how is it Sony's fault? They literally stepped in during the last month of development. It takes a long time to fix almost completely broken code.Espada12

Making unnecessarily complicated hardware ftl..

Lemmings are blaming Sony when its already been shown that they have nothing to do with it. :lol: Look at darksiders.

it's the dev. fault, all multplatform games runs so well except very limited no. of games, i.e Orange box .......... it a well known fact that x360 multiplatform games are slightly better, when a game is so screwed up, it's the dev. fault, God, how did they forget to put an istall option for a console that alwayshas a HDD standard ??????

it's the dev. fault, all multplatform games runs so well except very limited no. of games, i.e Orange box .......... it a well known fact that x360 multiplatform games are slightly better, when a game is so screwed up, it's the dev. fault, God, how did they forget to put an istall option for a console that alwayshas a HDD standard ??????

2mrw

It's all 3 companies faults.

1) It's SEGA fault for giving it to a developer who obviously wasn't skill enough on the PS3 hardware to successfully port the game properly. If they were going to giving it to a developer, they should have handed it over to Naughty Dog or Isomniac Games to port. Besides Sony, these are really the only 2 developers that know the in and outs of the PS3 like the back of their hands. SEGA should have handed it off to a more skilled developers on the PS3.

2) It's Platinum Games fault for not being honest with SEGA and Sony about porting the game. They obviously didn't have the knowledge to port the game adequately to match the Xbox 360 version. They thought they could, but like many other developers who think the same, they failed miserably. They shouldn't have even taken the task on. It was obvious that they cared more about the pay day then the actually quality of the game. Still, they really did have the time either to get the job done. So it may not total be their fault.

3) It's Sony's fault for creating an over priced technology challenge gaming console where developers need over a year to understand the hardware and software architecture. I know Sony want to be innovative and different from the competition, but sometime they go overboard. This was one of those times. Sony also approved the final product, which is why they also get the blame. Did anyone from Sony even play this game? They probably saw the graphics and action and saw $$$$ and told their people to "Print It".

4) It's Cows fault for complaining about something they already know about. You guys already know that games ported from the XBox 360 to the PS3 will be degraded graphically and by performance. It has been happening to multiplats since the PS3 launched. Games like F.E.A.R., Orange Box, Madden, etc.. all have issues when they got ported to the PS3. So this really should be no surprise to Cows by now.

The game was an Xbox 360 exclusive, and they decided to port it very late in the game. Bad things happen when you take a game designed for one platform and stick it on another.

I don't see how you can blame Sony.. I would blame Sega.110million

its microsofts fault

The game was an Xbox 360 exclusive, and they decided to port it very late in the game. Bad things happen when you take a game designed for one platform and stick it on another.

Teufelhuhn

There are tons of multi plats that don't look as good on the PS3 as they do on the 360. When are people going to realize that Sony has not used developer friendly architecture since the PSone.

kuu2

[QUOTE="110million"]I don't see how you can blame Sony.. I would blame Sega.T-Aldous

The devs: I could, see this happening in 07, but this is 2010 guys. Maybe if they put more time and effort in the PS3 version it wouldn't be a crappy port.clubsammich91

it felt like the dev. didn't want to deal with the PS3 in anyway , very sad, the game lost good potential sales on the PS3.

A little bit of plat since they should of just said no to brining it to the PS3 if they felt they wouldint be abel to offer the same quality and more on sega for giving us such a bad port. I already know lems are going to come in to say sony cause they suck and so forth(looks at poll). Its already been shown that the differences in PS3&360 games arent night and day anymore. Its very little difference now and days. Bayonetta is just one of the rare night and day cases. I would think if sega the ones who made VC and the yakuza games would be abel to give ps3 owners a good port job,but I guess I was wrong.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

The game was an Xbox 360 exclusive, and they decided to port it very late in the game. Bad things happen when you take a game designed for one platform and stick it on another.

2mrw

http://platinumgames.com/2009/09/18/fall-harvest/

Third paragraph.

It's all 3 companies faults.

1) It's SEGA fault for giving it to a developer who obviously wasn't skill enough on the PS3 hardware to successfully port the game properly. If they were going to giving it to a developer, they should have handed it over to Naughty Dog or Isomniac Games to port. Besides Sony, these are really the only 2 developers that know the in and outs of the PS3 like the back of their hands. SEGA should have handed it off to a more skilled developers on the PS3.

2) It's Platinum Games fault for not being honest with SEGA and Sony about porting the game. They obviously didn't have the knowledge to port the game adequately to match the Xbox 360 version. They thought they could, but like many other developers who think the same, they failed miserably. They shouldn't have even taken the task on. It was obvious that they cared more about the pay day then the actually quality of the game. Still, they really did have the time either to get the job done. So it may not total be their fault.

3) It's Sony's fault for creating an over priced technology challenge gaming console where developers need over a year to understand the hardware and software architecture. I know Sony want to be innovative and different from the competition, but sometime they go overboard. This was one of those times. Sony also approved the final product, which is why they also get the blame. Did anyone from Sony even play this game? They probably saw the graphics and action and saw $$$$ and told their people to "Print It".

4) It's Cows fault for complaining about something they already know about. You guys already know that games ported from the XBox 360 to the PS3 will be degraded graphically and by performance. It has been happening to multiplats since the PS3 launched. Games like F.E.A.R., Orange Box, Madden, etc.. all have issues when they got ported to the PS3. So this really should be no surprise to Cows by now.

XanderZane

Platinum games didn't do the port, they completed the game on the360 and then handed the code over to Sega since they wanted it on the PS3 so bad,who gave it to one of their teams to port. Go to the Platinum Games Forum and actually find out what happened.

LOL at the lemmings voting sony.

LOL at the lemmings voting sony.

Ultizer

[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

LOL at the lemmings voting sony.

Shielder7

Uh, they did step in... but they could only do so much when they had the release date at hand and the publisher wouldn't push the PS3 version release date a bit further in order to fix the port.

So all in all, it's Sega's fault.

LOL at the lemmings voting sony.

I guess they would have been better off not releasing it for the PS3???

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]The devs: I could, see this happening in 07, but this is 2010 guys. Maybe if they put more time and effort in the PS3 version it wouldn't be a crappy port.2mrw

it felt like the dev. didn't want to deal with the PS3 in anyway , very sad, the game lost good potential sales on the PS3.

The devs: I could, see this happening in 07, but this is 2010 guys. Maybe if they put more time and effort in the PS3 version it wouldn't be a crappy port.clubsammich91

it felt like the dev. didn't want to deal with the PS3 in anyway , very sad, the game lost good potential sales on the PS3.

Actually if it had been done properly i might have bought it.
It does interest me a bit.

[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

The game was an Xbox 360 exclusive, and they decided to port it very late in the game. Bad things happen when you take a game designed for one platform and stick it on another.

Teufelhuhn

http://platinumgames.com/2009/09/18/fall-harvest/

Third paragraph.

they didn't say it's an exclusive, they used the x360 as the lead platform all the way and then handled the PS3 version to Sega, in a way it's exclusivly developed for the x360 by P. games, i wonder why they didn't try with the PS3.

Sega, Platinum Games didn't even want a PS3 version to begin with. BTW is the PS3 version really that bad? Everyone makes it seem like you can't even play the game.

[QUOTE="XanderZane"]

It's all 3 companies faults.

1) It's SEGA fault for giving it to a developer who obviously wasn't skill enough on the PS3 hardware to successfully port the game properly. If they were going to giving it to a developer, they should have handed it over to Naughty Dog or Isomniac Games to port. Besides Sony, these are really the only 2 developers that know the in and outs of the PS3 like the back of their hands. SEGA should have handed it off to a more skilled developers on the PS3.

2) It's Platinum Games fault for not being honest with SEGA and Sony about porting the game. They obviously didn't have the knowledge to port the game adequately to match the Xbox 360 version. They thought they could, but like many other developers who think the same, they failed miserably. They shouldn't have even taken the task on. It was obvious that they cared more about the pay day then the actually quality of the game. Still, they really did have the time either to get the job done. So it may not total be their fault.

3) It's Sony's fault for creating an over priced technology challenge gaming console where developers need over a year to understand the hardware and software architecture. I know Sony want to be innovative and different from the competition, but sometime they go overboard. This was one of those times. Sony also approved the final product, which is why they also get the blame. Did anyone from Sony even play this game? They probably saw the graphics and action and saw $$$$ and told their people to "Print It".

4) It's Cows fault for complaining about something they already know about. You guys already know that games ported from the XBox 360 to the PS3 will be degraded graphically and by performance. It has been happening to multiplats since the PS3 launched. Games like F.E.A.R., Orange Box, Madden, etc.. all have issues when they got ported to the PS3. So this really should be no surprise to Cows by now.

FlamesOfGrey

Platinum games didn't do the port, they completed the game on the360 and then handed the code over to Sega since they wanted it on the PS3 so bad,who gave it to one of their teams to port. Go to the Platinum Games Forum and actually find out what happened.