Is my system under-performing?

I've been having trouble with some games getting fairly low fps recently, and I'm just wondering whether I should be getting more or whether it's normal.

My system:

AMD Phenom II x4 955

2GB DDR3

HD 5750 1GB (I know this isn't the best card, but it was cheap, so I picked one up.)

Win7 Ultimate 32 bit. (Gonna get 64 bit when I get some more ram)

600W Generic PSU

In Fallout 3, I'm running on standard high settings with 8x AF at 1440x900, and my fps only manages to stick at about 50-60. In some indoor areas, mainly the Rivet city market area, my fps drops to about 30, which I don't think should be happening, considering not a lot goes on in there.

I can't run GTA IV with anything over 25 on any settings, but that's not a big deal.

CoD4, W@W and MW2 all lag horribly whenever there's smoke or a few explosions.

Killing Floor won't run properly without projectors turned off. If it's on, light sources and looking at monsters seems to lag me badly.

All of these are without AA at the same res. I've tried new drivers, cleaning the old ones, and nothing seems to have changed. Is it just the card? I think I may have over-estimated how good it was.

I'm not completely sure how good a 5750 is, but it looks like something is off if you ask me. My best guess is your PSU is crappy and causes your machine to perform poorly.

GTA IV isn't something you should benchmark by though. The game is completely random as far as performance is concerned. Unless you're running an i7 though, you wont average past 40 FPS with medium settings. Personally i run 30-40 FPS in that game with a Q6600 @ 3.4 GHz, and a 5870 (GPU load normally around 20%-40%). This is with mostly high settings, since i barely get an FPS boost from turning the settings down.

The most important setting to adjust in that game is the shadow quality one. Shadows are calculated in real time by the CPU, which is heavy work. If you got the shadow quality up too high you're going to suffer.

Well, I've been trying to get this fixed for a few weeks now. Shadows seem to make no difference in Fallout. In the market area, I'm still just getting over 60 with everything turned to the lowest possible setting. Starting to irritate me really.

Well, I've been trying to get this fixed for a few weeks now. Shadows seem to make no difference in Fallout. In the market area, I'm still just getting over 60 with everything turned to the lowest possible setting. Starting to irritate me really.

Kenwyne

I've been having trouble with some games getting fairly low fps recently, and I'm just wondering whether I should be getting more or whether it's normal.

My system:

AMD Phenom II x4 955

2GB DDR3

HD 5750 1GB (I know this isn't the best card, but it was cheap, so I picked one up.)

Win7 Ultimate 32 bit. (Gonna get 64 bit when I get some more ram)

600W Generic PSU

In Fallout 3, I'm running on standard high settings with 8x AF at 1440x900, and my fps only manages to stick at about 50-60. In some indoor areas, mainly the Rivet city market area, my fps drops to about 30, which I don't think should be happening, considering not a lot goes on in there.

I can't run GTA IV with anything over 25 on any settings, but that's not a big deal.

CoD4, W@W and MW2 all lag horribly whenever there's smoke or a few explosions.

Killing Floor won't run properly without projectors turned off. If it's on, light sources and looking at monsters seems to lag me badly.

All of these are without AA at the same res. I've tried new drivers, cleaning the old ones, and nothing seems to have changed. Is it just the card? I think I may have over-estimated how good it was.

Kenwyne

What resolution are you running? I looked at some benchmarks comparing it to my old card (8800 GTX) and i noticed it really took a dive in one of the 1920 x 1200 benchmarks.

EDIT: 5750 on the left, 8800 GTX on the right

What's a bit weird is the 5750 was doing much better in most of the other benchmarks, so it must be a soft spot for that card.

I'm playing at 1440x900. Could you recommend some program I can use to check temps and usage too?

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/ for temp monitoring and gpu usage.

How would I go about making a log in game then.

I've been having trouble with some games getting fairly low fps recently, and I'm just wondering whether I should be getting more or whether it's normal.

My system:

AMD Phenom II x4 955

2GB DDR3

HD 5750 1GB (I know this isn't the best card, but it was cheap, so I picked one up.)

Win7 Ultimate 32 bit. (Gonna get 64 bit when I get some more ram)

600W Generic PSU

In Fallout 3, I'm running on standard high settings with 8x AF at 1440x900, and my fps only manages to stick at about 50-60. In some indoor areas, mainly the Rivet city market area, my fps drops to about 30, which I don't think should be happening, considering not a lot goes on in there.

I can't run GTA IV with anything over 25 on any settings, but that's not a big deal.

CoD4, W@W and MW2 all lag horribly whenever there's smoke or a few explosions.

Killing Floor won't run properly without projectors turned off. If it's on, light sources and looking at monsters seems to lag me badly.

All of these are without AA at the same res. I've tried new drivers, cleaning the old ones, and nothing seems to have changed. Is it just the card? I think I may have over-estimated how good it was.

Kenwyne

How would I go about making a log in game then.

Kenwyne

How would I go about making a log in game then.

Kenwyne

EDIT: Ninja'd

Standing still in the market area on F3, the load was about 60-70 percent and the temps were about 55C. FPS was about 40.

Standing still in the market area on F3, the load was about 60-70 percent and the temps were about 55C. FPS was about 40.

Kenwyne

Just checked cpu usage in the same area, and it's at 45%.

Just checked cpu usage in the same area, and it's at 45%.

Kenwyne

Surely it should still run reasonably well though. The game DOES say it utilises multi-core as well.

Surely it should still run reasonably well though. The game DOES say it utilises multi-core as well.

Kenwyne

It seems to be using all 4 cores, yet still runs like ass. Pic

It seems to be using all 4 cores, yet still runs like ass. Pic

Kenwyne

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Standing still in the market area on F3, the load was about 60-70 percent and the temps were about 55C. FPS was about 40.

matte3560

As I said, even on the lowest settings/lowest res, I'm only just getting over 60. That's a bit odd. Also, the fact that I get nowhere near other benchmark scores.

As I said, even on the lowest settings/lowest res, I'm only just getting over 60. That's a bit odd. Also, the fact that I get nowhere near other benchmark scores.

Kenwyne

I checked the clock speeds a while back. They change from 2d to 3d fine when I open a game. I'll have to try a new psu sometime then.

As I said, even on the lowest settings/lowest res, I'm only just getting over 60. That's a bit odd. Also, the fact that I get nowhere near other benchmark scores.

Kenwyne

Tried a new PSU. No change. Also, vsync isn't on.

Tried a new PSU. No change. Also, vsync isn't on.

Kenwyne

All the readings on the card are fine. It's running at the correct clocks and it's at pci-e x16 2.0. I'll try 3dmark now.

There is nothing to fix, you are getting the performance you are supposed to be getting.

Edit: Hell, to put it in perspective, with my 5870 OC'd and what not I can't get over 15-20 fps maxed out in gta 4 with my native res because of my qx6700 @ 3.75ghz. On my old 8800gts 512 Modern warfare 2 lagged with explosions and smoke effects and what not like you (graphics cards are very similiar in performance). So, yes, nothing is out of the ordinary.

I disagree. You think Killing Floor of all games should be laggy on my system? I've been looking on Google and I've only found a handful of people who have problems with it. Even older, crappy systems can max it with no trouble. CoD definitely shouldn't be laggy either.

I disagree. You think Killing Floor of all games should be laggy on my system? I've been looking on Google and I've only found a handful of people who have problems with it. Even older, crappy systems can max it with no trouble. CoD definitely shouldn't be laggy either.

Kenwyne

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I disagree. You think Killing Floor of all games should be laggy on my system? I've been looking on Google and I've only found a handful of people who have problems with it. Even older, crappy systems can max it with no trouble. CoD definitely shouldn't be laggy either.

Bigsteve3570

I'm not that arsed about GTA, 'cause I know it's a pain to run, but in CoD, simple things like a grenade explosion or flames cause my fps to drop down into the 30's or 40's, which I don't think's right. I'm over the recommended requirements.

Sounds about right performance wise. I'm not sure what you expect. The suggested recommended requirements for most games are generally pretty low. I always use those as minimum requirements.

I'm not that arsed about GTA, 'cause I know it's a pain to run, but in CoD, simple things like a grenade explosion or flames cause my fps to drop down into the 30's or 40's, which I don't think's right. I'm over the recommended requirements.

Kenwyne

Righty 'o. I guess I really did overestimate it then. I still can't get over the Killing Floor thing though. It should be running flawlessly.

Anyway, I was actually thinking of getting a new graphics card. Is the HD5850 any good?

I'm not that arsed about GTA, 'cause I know it's a pain to run, but in CoD, simple things like a grenade explosion or flames cause my fps to drop down into the 30's or 40's, which I don't think's right. I'm over the recommended requirements.

Kenwyne

It's not right. IIrc the HD 5750 and HD 4770 are similar. I max out CoD:MW2 @ 1600x900 with 4x AA and have no framerate issues what so ever. My CPU is also considerably slower.

Righty 'o. I guess I really did overestimate it then. I still can't get over the Killing Floor thing though. It should be running flawlessly.

Anyway, I was actually thinking of getting a new graphics card. Is the HD5850 any good?

Kenwyne

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I'm not that arsed about GTA, 'cause I know it's a pain to run, but in CoD, simple things like a grenade explosion or flames cause my fps to drop down into the 30's or 40's, which I don't think's right. I'm over the recommended requirements.

Tezcatlipoca666

It's not right. IIrc the HD 5750 and HD 4770 are similar. I max out CoD:MW2 @ 1600x900 with 4x AA and have no framerate issues what so ever. My CPU is also considerably slower.

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[QUOTE="Kenwyne"]

I'm not that arsed about GTA, 'cause I know it's a pain to run, but in CoD, simple things like a grenade explosion or flames cause my fps to drop down into the 30's or 40's, which I don't think's right. I'm over the recommended requirements.

Bigsteve3570

It's not right. IIrc the HD 5750 and HD 4770 are similar. I max out CoD:MW2 @ 1600x900 with 4x AA and have no framerate issues what so ever. My CPU is also considerably slower.

60 fps (vsync on) And that is without the clocks I have in my sig. I returned the clocks to 830/850 because I haven't been gaming much.

Proof:

I have no doubt he gets 60 frames+ at segments during the games, but he is obviously describing during specific situations that his frames drop to 30-40.Bigsteve3570

Exactly. He shouldn't be dropping to sub 40fps with his PC at 1440x900 and no AA. That's not normal.

Back to square one then.

I forced it off anyway, with the ipresetinterval thingy in the ini file.

I would recommend checking your ram usage since 2GB of ram is not that much these days. I currently have 4GB (but since I'm using a 32bit OS it can only utilize 3.2GB) and my usage in idle is about 30% and during heavy gaming (like crysis) it can get up to 75%

Well, I've been trying to get this fixed for a few weeks now. Shadows seem to make no difference in Fallout. In the market area, I'm still just getting over 60 with everything turned to the lowest possible setting. Starting to irritate me really.

Kenwyne