Xbox's Phil Spencer says Games with Gold is “fundamentally different” than PlayStation Plus

Most of PS Plus games are well picked while most of XBL Games with Gold are insulting to gamers.

I'd rather have $5 credit each month to purchase any digital content I prefer on XBL.

well you gotta give credit to that... just hope the games they give away are good...

I have been a Playstation fan since the first one came out, but it's a good thing Xbox One isn't selling well so we have things like this...

Here's to hoping that Sony follows suit...

Just gotta love being a gamer!!!

Gamers don't actually "own" titles anyway. They own game licenses. If MS users think they actually own a digital copy of a game, try re-selling it. You can't. And even if you sold off your console with all your digital games on it, you'd have to sell your Live account along with it, which you can't legally do. So you don't actually "own" the title.

Secondly, a case where someone cancels their Live subscription and still wants to play games such as Dungeon Defenders is extremely rare. Honestly, how much is that game if I bought it straight from Steam? $3? Because that's how much that low-budget Tomb Raider Guardian of Light game cost that came out in January '14 is. If high-calibur games such as Halo 3 and Assassin's Creed were still offered with GwG, I never would have cancelled my subscription to Gold. Thank heaven I can still play them, though.

Bottom line: neither PS+ subscribers nor GwG subscribers actually "own" their digital games; they only own licenses. Secondly, I honestly hope MS steps up their GwG program with high-calibur XBox 360 games because the 360 is a great console I would like to be more invested in.

PHIL SPENCER must thinks that the gaming community consist of 7-9 years old and a couple of toddlers with that kind of statement. Only a true idiot would believe that Gold games is better than the games on PS+. Even if you can't keep the game on PS+ you still would be able to finish it and enjoy it to the fullest before the subscription ends. Why the hell would I want old games that I can get seriously cheap on ebay? Do you have Tomb Raider on your Gold Games list? NO so there you go, GOLD game sucks.

1. Microsoft has enforced xbox live on xbox users... you cannot do a lot of things or even play online without xbox live. So they should do exactly the same thing as Sony is because almost all xbox users have live.

2. Sony is renting you the games but if you own a PS4 you will automatically get PS+ because you need it to play online.

Microsoft is very dumb.... xbox live and ps+ are mandatory on next gen consoles to play online or do anything so Sony's policy of renting newer games is better because a vast majority of people have the service and will continue to have it. With Sony you can not pay for PS+ then pay for it later and your games will still be there... and the games are new. MS giving 100 year old games you can get for 5$ on ebay is not even a deal it is stupid and you need xbox live gold to even download them lol.

anyone know if i sell my Xbox with these games downloaded, but delete my profile and everything else. The buyer would be able to play these games without needing my account info?

I'd rather rent a new game, then keep a game thats 7+ years old and garbage.

The difference is that Sony selects games no older than 2 years, often not even a year old, all with good Metacritic scores. MS gives out games 5-6 years old one can buy for peanuts anywhere. Sorry if I stick with the first. I am deleting games out of my 750GB HDD because of PS+ pouring new games to play each month.

Oh, and PS+ gives games for all 3 platforms, not just the PS3. People can mark as bought the games for the other consoles as well via web browser and download them all at once they buy the new platform.

so MS is actually giving you the game and sony is really just renting it too you. I get it.

all the xbox executives are a joke now. They feel they can get over on people. They have mislead a lot of people but it isnt gonna last. Kinect didnt turn out to be anything. the cloud isnt gonna be the magical thing there fans are hoping for. They havent delivered external storage support. They put an esram that is to small and to difficult to program todays games. they just keep pushing lies out. they would rather trick gamers then work with them. i guess some people have the need to watch tv in a little box in the corner and dont want to use the picture in pucture there tv and dvr had 9 years ago.

Spencer has to realize that a majority of the gamers actually do have money and will pay for a service (XBox Live/PS+) for as long as they have that system. I am sure most people who got a PS4 got PS+ and who picked up an XBox One picked up Live (sad reality of gaming these days) But I can't tell you when the last time I played my 360, so even though I got "all those games" they are just sitting there. If I had a PS3 and no longer playing it...guess what will happen to those games ... :).

As we move into the digital age, the days of showing off my giant box of Old NES and SNES games are over. Games are not "collected" like they use to.

I appreciate XBox Live owners can "keep their games" after they leave the service. But On paper...Sony throwing darts -- I don't mind "renting" a game for 6 - 8 years LOL. So bring it Microsoft!!!! :)

Phil Spencer has the difficult job of trying to make XBox Live Gold sound as good as PS+, which it isnt. Xbox owners should thank Sony for pushing Microsoft to even create the program. Its another example of how the competition between the two companies ultimately results in a better situation for all gamers.

It is gonna differ from person to person. I personally enjoy ps plus because of the discounts, not the games they give. I been apart of plus since the beginning and while it has improved over the yrs, its still not the amazing thing people make it out to be.

I hardly play many of my plus games mainly because if I wanted to play these games I would have bought them. Its not hard to find games cheap. Amazon,gylde,Ebay,pawn shops

I think plus is perfect for someone who has a limited game collection or has kids and can't afford to buy them many games.

I have no problem paying for online as long as the experience is worth it. I would like to see a move to dedicated servers and away for the P2P ones we have now.

Anybody having sign in issues? I cannot sign into my shiny new xbox one.

That is an advantage in theory. Being able to "keep the game" without keeping the service is a nice feature. But it really depends on the specific person. Some people are collectors and like to go back to older games. Others like to play a game for a short bit and then move on. No real right or wrong.

Sony is a rental service. Once the service is dead or your console is dead... You don't have your so called games anymore. You are renting them and in the end losing money. As a collector this is a big no no, yet I still do it, but I know I'll have to rebuy some of these games later on for cheap.

It's a monthly subscription-based online game service. They are fundamentally the same things.

While I admit that being able to keep the game is fantastic; it appears people would rather play something more recent, even if they do not necessarily own it. Perhaps they should try doing it like PS PLUS to see if it can better the reception of the 'Games for Gold' feature.

They can experiment further with this. Not many are even aware or mention 'Games for Gold.'

I'm a MS fan but I have to admit Sony is kicking our tail in this one department (in ONLY this one dept. IMO though).

The biggest advantage is not only better games but also the fact that it is a building library. With Xbox Live you get the one shot at the game free and after the two week period it costs again....huge difference.

However, I think both of the services are overplayed as far as that go, because I would spend time playing an older game on either as there are so many new games or other old games that I want to play. I can see it being a big deal for someone new buying the games though.

I think the argument of Netflix being free etc.....is really bogus considering all of us making the debate points are already participating in a paid service.

wow! keep great games for as long as your a member OR keep crappy games forever no matter what. Microsoft is wack.

even then PS4 is better though

literally everyone that has xbox live and Ps+ is laughing at this. PS+ is so so much better.

There's good and bad to both sides. While PS+ doesn't let you keep the games, the games are of a much, much higher caliber than what MS is offering or has offered in the past. Online is free for the PS3, but now you have to pay for online with the PS4. MS and Gold is just a blatant rip off for accessing FREE internet. So is PS4's p2p. In the past few months on PS+ we've gotten Bioshock Infinite, Tomb Raider, Metro LL and quite a few other great games. To be honest, I can't remember the last really good deal I got out of my Live subscription. I got Shoot Many Robots for the kids and Dead Island for my oldest, but I can't really remember anything that just screamed "awesome" at me. PS allows you to stream your digital content for free. MS doesn't. I think someone already said this, but things like Netflix and Hulu. Also, with PS+ you get that instant game collection which is pretty nice. Some really great games in the mix there. PS hardware (say what you will Xbox fanboys) has always run better than MS. I've burned through 2 Xboxs with the RRoD. I still have my first PS oldboy. Runs like a champ too. Also, PS has a lot more exclusives for their system than Xbox does. Both could go either way, but I enjoy the exclusives on both systems.

All in all, both are really good solid systems now. With the release of the "next-gen" systems I"m thinking in another year or two all the kinks will be worked out and those systems will be solid as well. That "next-gen" moniker that they stick to the new consoles is a joke already though. Seriously folks. Don't be played by these corporations that want to sell you something that pc gamers have been enjoying for years already. There is absolutely NOTHING these consoles can do or have done that those of us on pcs haven't been doing for years. 1080p? How about 5760x1080? Yep. 60fps? How about 90-200fps? Yep. SSAO, HBAO, HDAO? Have had them for years. God rays, tesselation? So 5 years ago on pc. Don't get me wrong, as I've already said, I love my consoles. They're wicked fun at times. They are, however, just like a brand new car, so depreciated in value as soon as you put it in your car for the ride home it isn't even funny. Soon as you open the box, it's already 2 years behind in tech. 2 years folks. Don't believe the hype with "next-gen". When consoles can support 3 monitors in a row and can natively support 4k without killing themselves or melting, then we'll be in "next-gen".

To each their own though. Console gaming isn't dying anytime soon. A real gamer, one that enjoys the artistry that developers have crafted and made for our enjoyment, won't just lock themselves into one console or one gaming machine. You're really going to have to get both to enjoy their exclusives, maybe get the game that plays better on the other system, maybe plays at 1080p for that large screen tv you just got, whatever. The list goes on and on. Just game and be happy.