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N64 Games For Nintendo Switch Online Have Some Issues

Technical issues, the inability to remap controls, and lack of support for the N64's controller pak have some fans unhappy with Nintendo Switch Online's N64 games.

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Nintendo Switch Online subscribers who have upgraded to the new, higher-cost Expansion Pack can now play N64 games on the go. Unfortunately, some fans are less than pleased with the service, citing various technical issues and lack of support for N64 features like the controller pak.

The N64 classic The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is sure to be one of the service's most popular games, but it's clear that something isn't quite right with the version of the game Nintendo is currently offering. Screenshots shared on Twitter show the Nintendo Switch Online version doesn't look the same compared to previous versions, with differences in draw distance, water textures, and fog. Some of those differences look like they may come down to variations between the Japanese and North American versions, but it's clear that the version currently being offered as part of the service isn't living up to fan standards.

Stuttering, input lag, and framerate issues also look to plague multiple games, from Ocarina of Time to Super Mario 64. Players have reported latency issues when attempting to play online in games like Mario Kart 64. While some of the footage being shared on Twitter could come down to poor connections, others are claiming the issues stem from a "lockstep" netcode that effectively pauses the game until other players are all in sync.

One of the biggest complaints across the board is the inability to remap controls for games on the service. The original N64 controller has six buttons on the right side of the controller: A, B, and four direction C-buttons. Nintendo Switch controllers only have four, meaning many of the N64 games on the service have had their controls remapped. While the A and B buttons stay the same, two C-buttons are mapped to X and Y, with the remaining two mapped to the triggers.

That makes sense in theory, but fans are quickly discovering that the button layout for some games makes them almost unplayable without purchasing Nintendo's new N64 controller for Switch. As pointed out by Eurogamer, in Sin and Punishment, for example, the default button layout makes it impossible to shoot and move to the right at the same time.

Lack of support for the N64 controller pak, or a substitute mimicking the pak's function, is also a bummer. On the original N64 hardware, the controller pak effectively served as a memory card. Mario Kart 64 uses the controller pak to save ghost-driver data, allowing players to race against themselves. The feature isn't supported here, and the N64 controllers for Switch don't support controller paks either.

Fans are hoping Nintendo will address some of the issues outlined above in future patches, but the company has yet to announce any official plans. Nintendo Switch Online's Expansion Pack tier costs $50 for a 12-month membership, and includes access to a selection of Nintendo 64 and Sega Genesis games. It also includes access to the upcoming Animal Crossing: New Horizons Happy Home Paradise DLC.

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And they want people to pay a premium for this.

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Edited By At0m1x

50 dollars for Cloud gaming🤣🤣🤣

You can't even remap the keys, sound is choppy and better yet if ur internet is crap then you wasted your money on basically pure air. Oh and Nintendo wants you to buy the N64 controller made for the Switch

Give me a reason why should I not use Emulation???

Best of it all its free!

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@at0m1x: Even if you have the best internet,online gaming will stutter or even pause coz its not in sync with other players.

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All this looks like the service is in its babysteps.
This should have been in a free beta for selected players untill next year.
Then come back with improvements and much more games.
Those who paid already,you all paid 50$ to be beta testers as harsh as it sounds

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Wait a minute. Is this just cloud gaming? Like you're not even really downloading the games?

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Some real b@lls on Nintendo to charge more for the expansion pass, not add any new functionality to Online, not to even bring it up to par with Xbox/PS. And then the N64 games that most people are paying for don't even work as well as the Wii U version. A version you may have bought, and have no way to bring to the Switch, you still have to pay to access this lesser version. Screw Nintendo.

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Someone else mentioned this elsewhere and I immediately suspected they were right.

They made the controls suck on purpose to get you to pay for that controller.

It seems right up their alley tbh. The Wii U version of SF64 felt less awkward to play with the default controls.

I can't fathom what other reason they had..

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@hg10: wat

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Edited By asnakeneverdies

Charging fifty moneys for this crap was already unacceptable in the context of a flawless execution, which not one expected, but this goes beyond what I thought critterly possible, fuckupwise. This has got to be a deliberate bitchslap on the fold. 🥴

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hopefully those greedy f*cks decide to drastically reduce the price

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Who would have thunk Nintendo was going to half a$$ it?

Nintendo is like crack. I don't understand the appeal.

They have been re-releasing the same games with a facelift for 30+ years and still manage to sell the hell out of them. It's crazy.

Users get better support from Emulators than Nintendo's own network. If that doesn't say it all, i don't know what else does.

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And Nintendo wonders why people would still rather run emulators and ROMS on their own systems.

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@ironhorse89: they don't wonder that

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@philip6k: They don't wonder or give a crap about a lot of stuff, clearly...

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This should be embarrassing, people ripped off, shoddy roms that don't match the quality of existing ones they attempted to remove.

But.. This industry is kind of a joke, and they will happily continue on.

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Raspberry Pi and Roms - Thanks.

I already bought all these games ages ago so the "legality" of that can go fly a kite.

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@Utnayan: that's not how that works......

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“Fans are hoping Nintendo will address some of the issues outlined above in future patches”

I’d advise said fans to not hold their breath.

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@artemis-v: Exactly. Nintendo got their money so they don't care.

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Welp, that was completely expected.

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shocker nintendo half assed something.

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Edited By nintendians

i guess, nintendo should stream their nintendo switch online games via the cloud.

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@nintendians: They'd still probably run it on the same crappy emulator and stream that. It's pretty embarrassing that they consistently do such a poor job emulating their own systems and are so far behind hobbyist made emulators is not even funny.

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Edited By nintendians

@spectral: yeah, but i'm starting to think that nintendo should have reprogram their ips to work native instead of emulating them, everything would be the same since they probably still have the original asset and code.

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