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Movie Trailers Are Killing Movies

Generic, empty trailers for movies like The Fall Guy and Furiosa have started the summer off badly.

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A great movie trailer can single handedly turn a movie into a success story--like that genius Cloverfield trailer in 2007 that didn't say what the title of the movie was. But it's more common these days, I'd argue, for a trailer to have the opposite impact. A generic trailer can so thoroughly dampen hype for a film that something like Furiosa, a great movie everybody likes that's a sequel to a great movie everybody likes, could become a major box office disappointment.

Furiosa was the second big financial letdown in May after The Fall Guy kicked the month off with a similarly low-key box office take, and both will end up coming in well below the numbers that summer blockbusters are supposed to have--neither of these films will get to the $100 million mark at the domestic box office. There are a lot of factors playing a part in why the summer has been so dismal thus far, but this my favorite: the trailers for those movies were awful.

In technical terms, the ads for The Fall Guy and Furiosa are fine. They're slickly edited, and they played up the cool action that those films have and all that. But they lacked something that's just as important as big explosions for potential audiences: information. The Fall Guy was marketed on being a movie that Ryan Gosling does action scenes in--but if you wanted to actually know what it was about, or what the title meant, you'd have to google it. Furiosa, likewise, was sold as little more than Fury Road again but with new actors, with the trailers doing little to demonstrate how immensely different it is in structure. Furiosa is an epic tale that takes place over 18 years--it's the Godfather Part 2 of Mad Max, basically, but the ads hid everything that made it different from the last one.

The core issue, really, is how cookie cutter the Hollywood marketing machine has gotten--just about every big trailer is cut similarly to these ones I'm complaining about. But it's fine when they actually give us information, or are able to come somewhat close to matching the vibe of the movie. That's certainly a factor in how Denis Villeneuve's Dune flicks have managed to become hits, with Part Two reigning as the top movie of 2024 so far--the trailers for both Dune movies generally reflect the vibe of the films they are selling, and they use narration to fill you in on the various conflicts in the story so you can get a sense of what's going on without reading any books. In other words, those trailers come off subconsciously to viewers as sincere and trustworthy.

And by extension, the trailers for The Fall Guy and Furiosa, which seem to fear trying to sell those movies on their own actual merits, play instead as empty and meaningless and not really worth caring about. Hollywood's been churning out trailers like this, which coast entirely on vibes at the expense of telling you what the movie is about, non-stop for about a decade--we may just be over it at this point.

This trend began a very long time ago, but it really solidified itself as the Hollywood norm with a three-movie sequence in 2015 and 2016, starting with Star Wars: The Force Awakens. One thing that director JJ Abrams loved talking about back in the day was this idea of everything being a mystery for the sake of being a mystery--"maybe there are times where mystery is more important than knowledge," he said in a TED Talk about his love of the "mystery box" all the way back in 2008. This idea fueled Disney's marketing for The Force Awakens, which just showed random clips from the movie without any context that might allow you to glean the basic plot details. Clearly that was enough for that movie, since it made $2 billion at the global box office.

Then, while The Force Awakens was still in theaters, something strange happened at rival Warner Bros: They released a snazzy new trailer for David Ayer's Suicide Squad, cut to Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. Everyone loved the trailer, but it apparently didn't reflect the tone of the movie that director David Ayer was putting together. So Warner Bros did the logical thing by re-editing the movie to make it like the trailer. The result was one of the worst comic book movies ever, but the juice from that trailer was so strong that Suicde Squad was a big hit anyway.

The third movie in this story is another Star War. Lucasfilm and Disney spent 2016 re-doing Rogue One after the powers-that-be didn't like director Garth Edwards' rough cut, with writer Tony Gilroy reportedly re-filming as much as half the movie. But the marketing people apparently didn't get the new material, because the pre-release trailers and ads for Rogue One relied heavily on scenes and shots that weren't used in the film. Rogue One made a billion dollars anyway, and is considered the best of the Disney Star Wars movies.

This sequence of events taught Hollywood all the wrong lessons about how to market a movie. The trailers don't need to actually tell you anything about the movie, or demonstrate what they're like--instead, they just need to blast you with hype-tastic vibes and promises of an empty spectacle that will remind you of other spectacles you've already watched.

But as the summer box office is demonstrating, that's not a way of doing things that works really well these days for most movies. You can get away with it with some stuff, like Godzilla x Kong or Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, which both have premises that are so specific and familiar that you don't need a ton of detail in the marketing. But most movies aren't like that. With The Fall Guy, you need the marketing to tell you some basic premise stuff--it's based on an old show that no one in the primary demographic has heard of, and the trailer barely even hints that it's got a conspiracy/mystery kind of story.

And with Furiosa's ads so focused on reminding you of Fury Road, it makes folks wonder why they need to watch the new one. They already saw Fury Road, after all, and the trailer had nothing to offer beyond "it's more Fury Road." Except that's not what Furiosa is at all--it's an epic tale that takes place over decades, with half the movie following Furiosa when she's an actual child. It's a very different movie from Fury Road, but it's hard to expect consumers to know that when the marketing did everything it could to hide everything that made Furiosa fresh and interesting.

As this summer's box office receipts are indicating, though, this substance-free marketing style is reaching the end of its usefulness. With tons of streaming options available without going out, you can't just fill movie theaters with a bunch of anonymous content without doing anything to distinguish it from stuff you can watch elsewhere, and after watching so many same-y trailers for so many years, folks don't fall for those boring, by-the-book tactics so much anymore. So if Hollywood wants to have a chance to actually recover in a post-COVID world, it's gotta find a new way to sell its movies.

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For me it's simply amazing with Netflix when it comes to trailers. 99% it's simply a clip of the show or movie. I'm not sure if it's laziness or just pure arrogance on their part.

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I gave up watching movie trailers long time ago

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I really hate the big drums build-up at the end of EVERY Hollywood action trailer these days. Once you hear it, you can't unhear it. It's in everything and it's so generic! It's even worse than the Zimmer 'BWARPs' that Inception brought in for a decade.

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June 17, 2024 - I can't say whether the reporter who wrote this article is "shilling" for the entertainment industry and/or just stating an honest opinion. Either way, bad trailers may lead to a drop in audience attendance, but I think there are a good number of factors at play. 1) If a film is really good, word of mouth plays an important part in getting people to go see it. We have never been as connected as we are now. People are always on their phones sharing all kinds of information. 2) Many in the entertainment industry have made a point to express their political and social views in their productions. A lot of people may not be aware of it, and quite a few may agree with it. But there is a portion of the public that just wants to be entertained. We want to forget about what is going on in the world and be "transported" to a different reality, watching whatever genre of film or TV production that we prefer. 3) Another factor is that people act like they are at home in movie theaters, and have no problem negatively impacting on people that bought expensive tickets just to see a movie. Lastly, trailers may be bad now, but it is just indicative of an industry that has become repetitive, ideological, and bad at its job.

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Yeah, I don’t think so. I think there are 2 far bigger reasons. #1 is watching movies at home, I have no interest in being in a theatre with people I don’t know when my set up is really good and I can be around family, friends, or even better, ALONE. Second reason is sites like this who just inundate you with details months and months ahead of release until I am just sick of hearing or reading about it.

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@chuckratm1: coming from someone with a home theater (projector, good sound setup, etc), going to the theater is still an experience that cant be substituted. It's fun, it turns a movie into an outing. I can only spend so much time sitting around at home all the time watching stuff. It's a fun experience to grab a bite to eat and catch a brand new movie at a theater. These days I might only see 3 movies a year at the theater, but I enjoy every one of those more than watching things at home.

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@chuckratm1: "I have no interest in being in a theatre with people I don’t know when my set up is really good and I can be around family, friends, or even better, ALONE."😂 I couldn't have said it better myself. As it is the streamers are raising their subscription fees constantly now. So why pay for movie tickets, when you're basically paying to eventually watch a movie anyway. Also,a lot of people have fantastic stereo and TV setups. They don't need to go to the theater. I'm very happy with my seven speaker stereo system and 55" OLED TV. I can adjust the sound and viewing options. The entertainment industry is turning going to the movies, into something like going to see a play from time to time.

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you know damn well it's not the trailers that kills the movies

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@Cbordi: 👍👍😊 Ummm could it be that many movies are being made by people with little talent and experience? Could it also be that people just want to be entertained, and not be forced to have "The message" forced on them. Oh yeah.. two more possibilities.. Many movies just suck, and the other is that people have so many other options for entertainment.

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@Cbordi: I don't know about that, I've watched trailers that were so bad that were just spoiler filled synopsis's of the movie, and some even went so far as to include the ending plot twist. I've had to start turning off trailers the moment I realize I want to see the movie for this exact reason.

A good trailer should get you exited for a movie without giving away it's secrets. The less is more approach is massively important, especially the more formulaic the movie is. Comedies giving up their best jokes in the trailer really annoys me. Always leave the best moments in the movie not the trailer.

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Both movies were fine as movies, we're talking about turnout and I don't think the poor turnout was reflective of the movies themselves when you have Godzilla vs Kong 5 and Bad Boys 4 doing better.

The trailers, at least the most circulating ones, were pretty meh. Furiosa is more than Anya Taylor Joy and Chris Hemsworth, they could've leaned into the dieselpunk vibe and factions a bit more than stylish shots of Anya Taylor Joy surrounded by flames. I'm also not sure why I sometimes see complaints of Diversty and inclusion for the movie. The Fall Guy was something I was absolutely not interested in based on trailers until friends gave me an idea of what to expect after they watched it.

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It has nothing to do with the trailers, that's just a bad excuse. Very few movies have been worth watching recently (the rest are uninteresting, bad, or niche).

Furiosa sounded niche. Not that I cared much for Mad Max.

Fall Guy sounded fun, but not a "need to see in theaters" fun.

Dune 2 did good, as it was a good movie building off of the first one, and worth the watch in theaters.

And I can't even remember if there's been many other movies recently, besides Garfield (as that one was well advertised). But I wasn't going to watch that one, letalone in theaters...

Deadpool is the only movie that I'm excited to see in theaters this year.

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The trailer didnt make Furiosa fail. The lack of Mad Max did. People were already disappointed by the fact Mad Max was a second character on the previous movie, despite its merits, yet another Mad Max movie without Mad Max was a terrible decision

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The poster for Fall Guy is all I needed to know it's not my kind of movie. With or without the Furiosa trailer I would still have seen the movie. I did see the trailer beforehand however, and it wasn't bad. The movie itself was average imo.

For me the only thing trailers do is give you a better idea what a movie is about. They give people a better chance at avoiding shitty movies, and also help people to actually see movies they didn't know about.

My only issue with trailers is when they give away the entire movie.

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Fall Guy was okay. I watched it at home, was it high framerate in the theaters too? That kinda made it jarring for me to watch.

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@faithxvoid: That movie was 30 minutes too long. There was so much awful rom-com style inane dialogue that just didn't work. The chemistry just wasn't there. The action scenes were great though and the movie would have been much better if the director stuck to what he knew.

John Wick, Nobody, and Bullet Train all worked because they were pretty much non-stop action with only a few breaks in between. The long, drawn-out stretches of badly written romantic "banter" killed all the momentum of the movie.

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I agree with the general idea of a trailer matching the tone and giving a general sense of what the film is about.

However, there has also been a trend in recent years of trailers fully giving the movie away. I've seen certain trailers, and after seeing the movie realized all the good scenes/surprises were all ready shown in the trailer itself. I've also seen trailers that made me feel I all ready saw too much so I don't bother to see it in theaters and decide to stream it later. Both of these are different archetypes of trailers killing movies that I think is worth flagging that you didn't cover in your article.

Two examples I feel like showed a rough feel of the movie in trailers but left a lot of unknowns that relied on viral success perpetuating a big box office returns include the first Frozen and Moana movies. Those trailers gave me enough to know what the vibe was, but I had no idea what the movie was about. But it gave me enough to go on to understand seeing all the discussion about them to merit checking them out with my family. Go check out the trailers! There's nothing there! They're also interesting examples because they aren't building on success of previous brands (ie. Star Wars) to overcome poor trailers, though maybe you could argue Pixar itself is the brand recognition in those cases.

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The Fall Guy failed (imo) bcz it just wasent that interesting, and they oversold it as the best movie of the year.

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@doublem-k:

I actually really liked Fall Guy. I'd say it flopped because they spent too much on it 😆. I felt it was an awesome comfort movie with some fun action scenes and dialogue that was quite entertaining. I went into it expecting a B-list quality movie with A-list actors and felt it matched my expectations.

Was it a genre defining movie that should have been a blockbuster? Definitely not. If the studios expected that and were willing to pay what they did to get that, they are delusional.

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It's not the trailers:

-Fall Guy flopped because it is based on an obscure 1980s TV series that no one remembers

-Furiosa flopped because it is based on a character that didn't have enough to her to lead a movie plus they waited too long, it should have released in 2018 while excitement for Fury Road was still hot but people don't care about Mad Max nine years after the previous movie

Both movies flopped because the theatrical window has narrowed and people will not go to theaters if they know that movies will arrive for home viewing fast (Fall Guy was only in theaters for 18 days prior to streaming, that is way too short).

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Honestly my issues are mostly due to casting, I didn't watch Furiosa because of Chris Hemsworth, Thor ruined him as an actor for me and I just can't take him seriously. I also resent them going with Anya Taylor-Joy instead of Charlize Theron again, not that I think Anya is a bad actress in any way, shape or form, but Charlize was the one who made Furiosa into such a great character, and don't give me "age" crap when Hugh Jackman is doing Wolverine at 55

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They should ask A24 how to make a trailer. Every single trailer of theirs is a banger on its own.

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This was something I noticed back when ID4 (Independence Day) came out in the 90s.

I honestly do not watch movie trailers for this very reason.

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Should they be generic and homogenous and all be set to a slowed-down 80s song?

No.

Should they reveal the entire plot of the movie?

No.

Abrams was right. Rian Johnson also said he wanted audiences going in as cold as possible.

The first T2 trailer had NO footage from the movie.

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@id0ntkn0w7: As cold as possible on the plot, yes. I hate when trailers basically sum up everything. That said, they have to do enough so that I know what I'm getting, or, really, WHY I want to go in at all.

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Everyone seems to think they have the answer, but a Pixar sequel made $155 million opening weekend, Bad Boys 4 did pretty well, then there was the Japanese Godzilla movie. No messaging in those movies, just entertainment with maybe a light moral statement. Audiences will still pay for escapism, as they always have, they won't go to movies to see modern cultural issues beat to death.

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@kasar: that's what Furiosa was though. There was no cultural issues being beat to death in that movie, it was as escapism as it gets.

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@kasar: Well said. I could be wrong, but I think more people are realizing that big names in Hollywood are using their crafts to lecture people, and push their political and social agendas.

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1. Trailers all look and sound the same (If i have to hear one more hauntingly whispered, piano remix of a 90s song, I'm going to lose it)

2. Trailers don't tease you; they just try to spoil 75% of the movie

3. Studios don't take risks, so it feels like you've already seen the movie a dozen times before

4. Money is getting tighter but tickets are getting more expensive

5. Theaters (around me) are wearing down with worse screens, uneven sound, etc.

6. Covid made people forget how to behave in theaters

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@Ultima_Dragoon said:

"Trailers all look and sound the same"

Exactly that! I especially cannot stand the scoring of trailers anymore and have made it a habbit to only watch trailers with sound turned off. If it looks interesting, i might watch it again with sound. This almost never happens anymore.

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@Ultima_Dragoon: 5 hit home for me, the only IMAX theater we have here isn't even featuring 3D anymore (it's also super low brightness) and they still charge the same

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@Ultima_Dragoon: i see lots if post-processing garbage on theater screens now. It's like they connected the projector to a store display TV without disabling the SOE. Terrible.

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@Ultima_Dragoon: a man of wisdom

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I feel like we've reached the point where we have a gap between the industry's desire for infinite growth and the willingness of people to go and see movies. In other words, your typical late-stage capitalistic quandary.

The industry needs to adapt and either diversify or be comfortable with less. Perhaps it is time to break up the industry, too; turn WB and Universal and others into multiple companies.

Personally, I'd like to see more movies with smaller budgets, more creativity, more appeal, but with less need to be "blockbusters". The movie scene is oversaturated with "blockbusters" I think that's the problem. Everything has to be this big earner that makes hundreds of millions because the budget was hundreds of millions.

Make more movies with budgets of 7 or even six figures that can get away with making 8-figure profits or less. There's a lot of talented actors out there and you can do a lot of creative movie making and writing without spending a lot.

Just my two cents, from someone writing from a place of ignorance (as in I don't really know the industry outside of what I as a viewer perceive).

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@mrbojangles25: I'm not sure of the economics of it, and I'm too tired to google, but I think part of the problem is the business of theaters as well as the studios.

I remember when there were so many more small, independent movie theaters. They were the kind of places you could go see the smaller budget pictures you speak of. Big studios even had subsidiaries that catered to this niche (Miramax started that way). They all seem to be gone now. Whether that's because people stopped buying tickets or the studios made sweetheart deals with AMC and National Amusements, I don't know. I tend to think it's the latter, as I certainly know a lot of people who would love to buy tickets at those places again.

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@mrbojangles25: Hollywood used to do this all the time. They’ve turned away and let independents take over, only producing huge films they think of as sure bets. And they’re not always right on that factor, obviously.

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well... it's either a hit or miss situation.

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That's funny because idiots will always self harm & then cry foul.

Same ones who cry about retfund policy ar ethe same tools

who pre order games..

And the same dudes who want to stay spoiler free will still goto message forums about said movie/game and cry foul when they get spoiled...

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Theaters aren't worth the price of admission for one. Even though most movies are just garbage lately. When I was a kid I still saw bad movies in theaters cuz you could see them for 10 bucks with candy and a drink on Tuesdays. Now it's 20-50 for a shit movie and shit popcorn. Not worth it. Would rather just watch it at home or pirate it. The fun is gone. Inflation is horrible and Theaters wanna upcharge like hell due to the massive losses during Covid just to justify their existence.

Trailers are also at fault. But not for the reasons in the article. For the longest time they thought putting spoilers and misdirection in trailers was the best idea ever. Like Terminator Genesys(there is a lot wrong with this movie) The big reveal was that John was a terminator. But they plastered that all over the trailers and the movie poster. Going back further. M night's The Village. Showed pretty much all the monster scenes. 90% of the movie is talking. The list goes on.

You put a lot of focus on Furiosa. The trailers weren't the problem. The trailers were actually fun and action packed. The problem was. No one wanted a F'ing Furiosa origins story. Especially not almost 10 years later. If it was part of a trilogy and Max was back in the last one like 8 years ago. It would have done better. But it came out after a long streak of horrible girl boss movies. It was destined to fail.

You say Dune 2 did well because of marketing. I say it did well because the writers and director of Dune didn't suck at their jobs. It did amazingly well and everyone came back for yet another amazingly well done movie. Fall guys looked like crap and turned out like crap so it did like crap at the box office.

As for Suicide Squad. Everything about that movie was a dumpster fire. From the trailers to the casting to the story. But of course you ignored the one James Gunn did that absolutely demolished that piece of shit in every way possible and spawned a TV series on a character not a lot of people knew about that also did super well. IT's funny that James Gunn made a suicide squad out of unknowns and did super well but the one that turned Harley into a joke, Joker into a gangland wannabe and Will Smith doing **** all talent wise did poorly.

Now onto star wars. As much as this site likes to sit there and give everything Star Wars a 8-10/10 rating. The reality is everything after Force Awakens except 3 examples has been 2-5's. the ONLY good Star Wars content was Mando S1/S2 and Andor. I'm pretty sure you only focused on TFA because it made 2 billion. Which was because of the oceans worth of fans all over the planet simply excited to get more Star Wars content. But Last Jedi and Rise took a nose dive compared to it because they sucked ass and has been bleeding fans since.

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Theaters aren't worth the price of admission for one. Even though most movies are just garbage lately. When I was a kid I still saw bad movies in theaters cuz you could see them for 10 bucks with candy and a drink on Tuesdays. Now it's 20-50 for a shit movie and shit popcorn. Not worth it. Would rather just watch it at home or pirate it. The fun is gone. Inflation is horrible and Theaters wanna upcharge like hell due to the massive losses during Covid just to justify their existence.

Trailers are also at fault. But not for the reasons in the article. For the longest time they thought putting spoilers and misdirection in trailers was the best idea ever. Like Terminator Genesys(there is a lot wrong with this movie) The big reveal was that John was a terminator. But they plastered that all over the trailers and the movie poster. Going back further. M night's The Village. Showed pretty much all the monster scenes. 90% of the movie is talking. The list goes on.

You put a lot of focus on Furiosa. The trailers weren't the problem. The trailers were actually fun and action packed. The problem was. No one wanted a F'ing Furiosa origins story. Especially not almost 10 years later. If it was part of a trilogy and Max was back in the last one like 8 years ago. It would have done better. But it came out after a long streak of horrible girl boss movies. It was destined to fail.

You say Dune 2 did well because of marketing. I say it did well because the writers and director of Dune didn't suck at their jobs. It did amazingly well and everyone came back for yet another amazingly well done movie. Fall guys looked like crap and turned out like crap so it did like crap at the box office.

As for Suicide Squad. Everything about that movie was a dumpster fire. From the trailers to the casting to the story. But of course you ignored the one James Gunn did that absolutely demolished that piece of shit in every way possible and spawned a TV series on a character not a lot of people knew about that also did super well. IT's funny that James Gunn made a suicide squad out of unknowns and did super well but the one that turned Harley into a joke, Joker into a gangland wannabe and Will Smith doing **** all talent wise did poorly.

Now onto star wars. As much as this site likes to sit there and give everything Star Wars a 8-10/10 rating. The reality is everything after Force Awakens except 3 examples has been 2-5's. the ONLY good Star Wars content was Mando S1/S2 and Andor. I'm pretty sure you only focused on TFA because it made 2 billion. Which was because of the oceans worth of fans all over the planet simply excited to get more Star Wars content. But Last Jedi and Rise took a nose dive compared to it because they sucked ass and has been bleeding fans since.

hahaha this is my type of humor!

"The problem wasn't the Furiosa trailers it's

the fact that this movie exist.

And i am still wondering how the CGI spread her eyes so far apart.

~I paid to go see Godzilla Kong X recently & it was almost $40 for me & daught..

~StarWars TFA had potential but Snoke ended up being NOTHING!

We GenX fans were hoping it was Anakin whom Luke Saved after ROTJ.

He burned the Amror so nobody knew Anakin The Republic Hero w/ No Fear was Vader.. Han Knew & this probably explained why he & his wife seperated....

The sequels had potential but After TheLast Jedi im supe rhater of all things Disney SW..

BobaFett character assassination was disgusting as Luke dying from force

Heart Attack..

Im Glad the new series has lame SW Holdout fans pissing & moaning..

~If i inherited Billions & bought StarWars i would make a new movie

With the Ultimate Fan roundtable like the NewJediOrder 19 book series did for concept plot ideas....

~~Luke would come out of a Force vision of The Disney Sequels and tells Leia and she then informs Luke She is pregnant with Twins.

A Boy & A Girl!!! The SToryline of the books was Epic and worthy to make a movies about..

Just LIke DC Kingdom COme is worthy of a Trilogy or TV series.

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@sippio: damn, the idiots really showed out

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Isn't streaming killing movies?

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@sebb: It is, and isn't.

Movies are a global mass scale media, with a larger middle class then 40yrs ago, even 20yrs ago. When movies are made they are not just for a single country, but the tastes of a global market. So a movie now, has to be just wildly, bombastically, and eye wateringly ... safe for a global market. gimme a sec....

You have this huge divergence, (movie theatre movies,== and then streaming movies). Streaming has ravaged cable tv way more then theatres, but also absorbed genres away from movie theatres. Things like documentaries, rom coms, comedies, edgy sci fi films that is not a cgi fest, and dramas, non-fictional dramas, period piece dramas.

If you follow the investment funding section in Variety, just follow the money, you see that little money is going towards cable channels making movies like they once did. (sci fi channel, USA, WGN, TBS, TNT, major networks, premium cable, MTV, comedy central, Nick, etc). More money is going towards the Netflix, Disneys, Primes, etc. The rest is going towards very specific films (repeats, sequels, prequels, or licensed film products that have ancillary income model beyond the box office) that hit the theatre, but also do very well in streaming and cable. There is still millions and billions to be made, and lost in theatrical movies. But streaming is continuing to grow, and eating into it.

The cost to make a movie is actually down. 40yrs ago when a movie was made on film, cameras cost more then a person's yearly income and then some, now a film can be made on a Iphone. The cost to edit film, was astronomical, now you have very good free software. Shooting ghostsbusters in new york was economical, now it costs a fortune per hour to shoot in New York. So you have multiple times more movies per year then what once was released in an entire decade in the 60s, 70s,... all around the globe. There will be plenty of room for movies to get made, for our lifetime, still yet. But there will be a divide of what kind of movies get made for each mass viewing market.

I think one day, movies theatres will be killed by Applevision Pro like devices, that can give you IMAX like experiences, while connected to social groups, without leaving your home, and where you can buy products while watching the film, and doordash delivering food right after the movie. Sigh.....

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The good parts of furiosa are where it is like fury road

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It's the recession we're "not" in right now, and Hollywood's inability to make a decent movie.

Things are tight and movie theaters are a luxury. My 4% raise didn't do jack to inflation, and that was a good raise at my company. Already cut a lot of fat out of the budget, including streaming services. Theaters aren't even a thought right now.

And movies have just sucked lately. C suite needs to step aside and let the artists do their thing, but no, every movie is tainted by their stink. Very hard to justify dropping $100+ for the crap they're putting out. Faith in Hollywood is on life support.

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