More Details About Star Wars Episode 7: The Force Awakens' Main Villain

@BIGFELLAH26: Ah but what if he's some kind of ancient Sith spirit who seeks to return to the flesh?

That could be cool, and would explain why hes digital, Don't give up yet buddy, Kylo Ren's still a real boy :D

@JediSlein: Do you have a point?

@redeemer6666: Most of the points that you made are generic villain mistakes but I do agree that he isn't as powerful as everyone think he is. He's a guy who rely on a life support system, has a very limited lightsaber moves and force powers, and pretty much end up being the lap dog to other people. (Tarkin and Sedious) Neither his fellow Imperial moffs nor rival rebel leaders has any respect for him, they insult him right to the face. Death count? He only killed an old guy who just LET him kill him, and some helpless admirals with not defence. Not to mention he has no official rank in the Imperial Hierarchy; While Sidious remain on top as the Emperor, Vader really is nothing but a remnant of an old religion.

@redeemer6666: Vader destroyed an entire planet full of people. That's gotta count for something.

I don't get why saving Luke redeemed him enough to be good at the end. Killing someone that's going to kill your only son is just human nature. I don't think it makes up for eradicating am entire planet of people.

@redeemer6666: One of the better posts I've read on gamespot. Some good points there LOL.

@redeemer6666: Because Vader didn't want to hurt Luke. He didn't want to kill him and he was having doubts aboout his place.

"Supposedly hunted the Jedi order to near extinction, In fact killed a room full of toddlers."

He did and that's a big feat, a dark one.

"Fucked up protecting the Death Star, TWICE!!!"

Thing is, only a few people know what happens on the Deathstar the second time. Vader failed because Han Solo helped and he was focusing on Luke Skywalker.

"Fucked up capturing Luke, Even though he was 3 feet away and disarmed....literally lol"


He wanted to convert Luke to the Dark Side. He was trying to make him come to his side. It's his son so he won't go all out.

"Sells Han Solo to the Hutts, Seriously **** Fett, Use him as a trap to lure Luke numb nuts."

Why Fett wanted Solo and at the time he tested the Carbon Freezing him. He honestly didn't care and Vader had different plans.

"Doesn't buy/take back Han Solo from the Hutts, Or even wait on Tatooine to create said trap."

Umm why would he even care about Solo. He wouldn't care. SECONDLY, Tatooine would bring too many dark memories. It's where his mother died. He wouldn't want to go there. Do you even think?

-"Betrays his Master, Now while usually considered a good thing within Sith ranks, Betraying your master to return to the Light Side is a serious fucking no no."

Nobody except Sidious, Vader and Luke Skywalker know about that. NOBODY ELSE so how would others no and the story is about his redemption.

I mean seriously all your beefs seem so fucking stupid. Your *whining* and I do mean whining since I see you are is just so short sighted. Vader was actually a decent and very ruthless Sith. When it comes to family he relents. That's a very human thing.

@redeemer6666 someone needs a girlfriend i see.

@redeemer6666: Good points :)

Maybe Vader's legend doesn't include all that stuff, only the impressive stuff? That's how legends of people often go.

that act as a hand protector or small shield in case

@madgame23: The actual Sith that were evil by nature actually died off long before the point where the Star Wars movies start. The "Sith" now are actually other species that just follow the Sith religion. I'm not sure why the new villain uses a light saber if he doesn't follow the Sith religion though.