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Microsoft on Xbox One -- It's about games, not gigaflops

Corporate vice president Phil Harrison downplays competition over specs, says "clearly Xbox One has the best games" compared to PlayStation 4.

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For Microsoft and the Xbox One, it's all about games. That's according to corporate vice president Phil Harrison, who told Edge that he's not interested in comparing specifications against the PlayStation 4 because it's the games that will win consumers over in the end.

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"Every platform I've ever been involved in somebody has said 'oh, this has got more gigaflops or more teraflops than the other one,' and at the end of the day it never really matters," Harrison said. "It's all about having the best games and having the most impressive experiences, and clearly Xbox One has the best games."

The Xbox One's launch lineup includes 23 games and was previously described by Harrison as the best in the history of consoles. By comparison, Sony has said it will have 33 titles available on PS4 by December 31.

Harrison's comments came in response to a question regarding a report from last month that claimed the PS4 is "noticeably faster" than the Xbox One. He said this report doesn't tell the whole story.

"In the run up to launch of a console you're going to get a slightly nuanced answer because the operating system's not finished, the performance of the machine's not locked, and as you may be aware we can increase CPU and GPU capability on Xbox One," Harrison said. "So I think it's impossible to draw any conclusions from that based on pre-launch unfinished hardware and unfinished operating systems."

Microsoft announced in August that it had increased the Xbox One GPU speed by 53MHz since the Electronic Entertainment Expo in June.

The Xbox One launches on November 22 for $500, while the PS4 arrives a week earlier in North America on November 15 for $400.

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talk about being delusional

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I love how the guyHarrison said. "It's all about having the best games and having the most impressive experiences, and clearly Xbox One has the best games." Ok, sounds good, but then why are you focusing on the xbox becoming an entertainment box at home with tv cable connecting etc. WHY not stick to being a perfect gaming system instead, and idk dropping the price.

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I initially had the PS3, then switched to 360 because all my friends were on it and I was really hyped about the XBOX One, however I honestly don't think WE as consumers are getting the BEST possible thing XBOX could have made for this generation (and I'm not sure PS4 is gonna be ridiculous either but hey you gotta choose one). I mean these people should look at what WE the players really want and what is important to us. ALL THEY have to do is read our comments and give us GAMES that run to the best degree the console can handle. I hate how for example FIFA, every year adds only little things, and over like 5 years you look at all the changes that were made and you can conclude that ALL those changes could have been made in ONE YEAR. Give US Great games that will challenge the consoles at the highest level allowed.

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lol m$


naughty dog

santa monica

ready at dawn

quantic dreams

polyphony digital

media molicule

level - 5

japan studio

all say hi to ya....can continue but wont matter


that company dare to say its all about games ?

a company that rehashed 3 ip's for an entire generation ? lol

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@Albaficas Yea you forgot Sucker punch,Evolution Studios,Bend Studio.The list also keeps going.

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I've already decided I'm buying a PS4 and not an Xbox one. Mainly due to the ridiculous shenanigans on microsofts part this time around.

However I will say this remember how PS3 was hyped as having the better hardware when the last consoles came out. Well it wasn't long until I wound up buying the 360 version of any game released for both systems because the PS3 version was always 720p while 360 was 1080p. I don't know WTF was up with that but it guaranteed a lot of my money going to Microsoft instead of Sony.

This time the difference is supposed to be much more, but I've learned to take a "wait and see" attitude to such hype.

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Pretty accurate statement. Xbox One does have the best exclusives in my opinion. I see no reason to deprive myself of great games. I would rather pay the extra 100 for better gaming experiences.

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@tommynj Fools already predicting which console has the better games which no one has played. Pitiful.

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@thebeachguy90 @tommynj I think it's more realizing which games do/don't look fun based on the shown gameplay of said games. Was pretty easy to spot which one had games that look fun and which look like crap. Pitiful

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um they have a better launch releases by a small margin i will say that but in the long run sony gets more exclusives then MS. MS has forza sony has GT, MS has Halo sony has KZ, halo has the better history but i am a fan of neither. as for froza and GT they are both gr8 games. MS does not have the best exclusives.

for the most part who has the best that is an opinionated opinion. but sony has 53 exclusives to MS 13 exclusives from 2010 - 2013

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@rahl247 @tommynj Quality > Quantity

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@rahl247 @tommynj Sony has nothing noticeable to offer players. Their entire exclusive line up is completely average at best right now.

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@rahl247

Project spark (win 8 only) and titanfall (windows only) are the only two that are on PC, so how will you play them all on PC?

First party releases that are coming after the first year, proving your first year of support then gone theory wrong already. (some still unknown to an extent, which means no lack of games as time passes):

-Four black tusk games (one this year) and MS owned

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/10/black-tusk-game-shown-running-on-xbox-one/

-343 games (also MS owned)

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Second game project

http://segmentnext.com/2013/09/13/343-studios-currently-working-unknown-projects/

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-Rare games (MS owned)

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new banjo

new perfect dark

http://www.oxm.co.uk/60985/rare-weve-got-ideas-for-kinect-in-perfect-dark-banjo-viva-pinata/

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-Japan Studios
(some of which may be first year as well.)
specificity of titles are not covered, but they did make lost odyssey, blue dragon, star ocean, ninety nine nights

http://gematsu.com/2013/09/microsoft-planning-japan-developed-xbox-one-exclusives
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Those are just the known future titles, There are surely plenty more, but I'm sure those won't matter for some reason.

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@tommynj @rahl247

yes at this point i will admit xbox1 line up has a slight advantage but again thru 2010 to 2013 ps3 54 exclusives and xbox 360 13 exclusives.

you do not buy a system with the 1st year at thought its over all. besides i will miss mabe 3 - 4 games from the xbox1 since allot of xbox games make it to PC

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@tommynj @rahl247 You don't like knack (which the developer of the game described as a "second purchase" gmae) and deep down? and you don't want another shooter along side COD and BF4?? .... What is wrong with you?

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2010 - 2013

sony exclusives 54

MS exclusives 13

this just shows that sony gets more exclusives then xbox and that is what counts

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@rahl247 last gen that may be true, but just take a look at what you have this gen... F2p and indies (most of which will be multiplat in the long run) ...

EDIT: to be fair we don't know how many of those indies are now in collaboration with ID@Xbox, so I will retract my statement of "most" and say some, as I can not fairly say most. Grant it I will take the MS lineup any day over any amount of indies and F2P.

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I would say that this is an accurate title. Especially considering both consoles each only have one 1080p/60FPS exclusive game, (Forza 5/KZ:SF) which makes me laugh when I see people whine about XB1 games that look better than PS4 games, but arent the almighty "1080p native with 60FPS.


These are only the first year AAA games!!
1.) D4
2.) Halo
3.) Black Tusk game
4.) Project Spark (free)
5.) Dead Rising 3
6.) Ryse
7.) Forza 5
8.) Fable Legends
9.) Sunset Overdrive
10.) Killer Instinct (freeish, like driveclub)
11.) Quantum Break
12.) Titanfall
(feel free to post a PS4 list to compare...)

AND OF THOSE (and some not mentioned above since they aren't first year)
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First party releases (some still unknown to an extent, which means no lack of games as time passes):

-Four black tusk games (one this year) and MS owned

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/10/black-tusk-game-shown-running-on-xbox-one/

-Second 343 games (also MS owned)

Halo5

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Second game project

http://segmentnext.com/2013/09/13/343-studios-currently-working-unknown-projects/

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-Rare games (MS owned)

Killer instinct

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new banjo

new perfect dark

http://www.oxm.co.uk/60985/rare-weve-got-ideas-for-kinect-in-perfect-dark-banjo-viva-pinata/

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kinect sports

-Turn 10

Forza 5

-Lionhead

Fable Legends

-Team Dakota

Project Spark

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@nicksetzer Hyping up games no one has played and are just going by what MS says and watching the pretty looking trailers. SMH. Pathetic.

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@thebeachguy90 @nicksetzer posting a list of games is hyping them? have fun in your little fantasy world. And MS has pretty looking trailers only?? Lets compare what gameplay we have seen.

XB1:
We have widely seen DR3, forza 5, ryse, D4 (only journaliist saw it), project spark, titanfall, and killer instinct.

PS4:
we seen have seen knack, octodad, driveclub, KZ: SF, infamous: SS (only journalist saw it) and deep down.

Personally I wasn't impressed with any of the gameplay videos for any of the PS4 games. (but that's the nice part about opinions... you don't have to agree)

SMH. Pathetic....

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@rahl247 @nicksetzer @thebeachguy90
-More doesnt = better (PS3 also didn't get many good games until well into the price drop) so if everything is going to be the same as you suggest I will wait for 2 years until a good game comes out.

-couldn't you ask that about PS4?? and the funny part is almost all of the PS4 games are available on PC as well, all of the indies and F2P are on pc (except a select few)

-PS4 is launching with KZ xbox has no shooters at launch. Nuff said.

-Even more reason I should buy a XB1 now and then a PS4 when they actually get their act together and get good games.

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@rahl247 @nicksetzer @thebeachguy90 well I'm sorry to hear you have bad taste in games. Not only that you judge games before they are released...

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These are only the first year AAA games!!
1.) D4
2.) Halo
3.) Black Tusk game
4.) Project Spark (free)
5.) Dead Rising 3
6.) Ryse
7.) Forza 5
8.) Fable Legends
9.) Sunset Overdrive
10.) Killer Instinct (freeish, like driveclub)
11.) Quantum Break
12.) Titanfall
(feel free to post a PS4 list to compare...)

forza and halo d4 and dead rising are the only decent games rest is trash

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again ps3 had more exclusives then xbox 360 this gen is going to be the same.

how many exclusives will be good who knows and alot of the xbox games will be ported to PC thats a known fact. history shows most exclusive games for ps3 did not make it to pc thats facts.

xbox as is the pc is loaded with FPS thats fact.

as for launch games both launches are lacking but the xbox1 is a tad better but look at what has been comen out for the 360 lately just as MS did with the 360 launch to xbox they stopped everything to work on launched games for xbox1.


there arestill plenty of games that are comen out for the ps3

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@thebeachguy90 The foolish and laughable part is you don't even know what AAA means, but attempt to use it as a means to support what you said before lol

See below for what a AAA game really is.
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http://gameindustry.about.com/od/glossary/g/Aaa-Game.htm

and further if the demos only showcase the best of the game then I stick to even more what i said before about PS4 titles in my opinion. If that deep down gameplay and knack gameplay are the best parts, then I am immensely underwhelmed.

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@nicksetzer I can understand Forza as it is already a proven franchise but you've only seen demos of the rest. Demos showcase the good parts of the game, doesn't mean the rest will be the same. Not saying you can't have your opinions on which look more appealing but already calling them out to be AAA titles and putting them on such a pedestal they have not earned to be on. That's what I find foolish and laughable. I'd rather wait to see the scores and reviews or play them for myself, the smart thing to do.

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There won't be that many great exclusives for X1 (its a Halo + a couple of exclusives Box if you have money to throw). The 300K MS servers are not for Xbox (more than 95% are for MS new Azure service, they just fail to mention that).

http://www.waroftheconsoles.com

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@jmc-0101 That is an awesome source you have there................

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I swear that I've read this same article from about a month ago. Why do they keep asking this guy the same questions and he answers it the same way? Oh well...however, I do agree with some parts of this article. I love the look of Titanfall and several other Xbox One games, but I love the PS4 hardware. I have pre-ordered both anyways.

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Someone should tell MS that the more they talk about the power of PS4 the worse One looks.

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Not this again.
- Phil Harrison accepts an invite for an interview from a Games journo magazine.
- Games Journo magazine asks the same old tired questions Phil has been asked a hundred times (over-exaggeration intended) already. Gives same answer he gave the other hundred times.
- Eddie reads the article from the magazine and makes a news item out of it. Rinse, repeat, monotony ensues.

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@hadlee73 It mainly has to do with Microsoft continuing a PR nightmare at times. They need to stop talking about PS4, period.

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ya i have to say the xbomb one is just not a good idea =it doesn't have any really good games -titan fall doesn't look that good and all we have seen is scripted game play from what ive seen i just don't see it as that good either also hardware does matter -and i have to say that i don't like the eye of microsoft watching me constantly its something im never going to use because every kinect game has been bad -its pointless and needs to be stopped instead of forced on us

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@Max42 Those are all opinionated statements... the games look good to you may look bad to someone else and vice versa. Hardware only matters if the OS can handle and work properly on it. Considering Microsoft is a OS giant, this won't be a problem. Kinect isn't required in order to play the games, so stop using this as an argument. It's not being forced upon you clearly because you're buying a PS4 from what I can assume.

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It's about games, not gigaflops well maybe so but theres a big difference between 720 900 and 1080p resolution and as in seeing the xbox one has trouble even running 900p resolutions i mean come on this is supposed to be nextgen right? im not all about graphics if the stories in the games are are good but i also dont want to be looking at muddy washed out textures so yeah M$ u keep telling those lies we'll see how many people still believe them when the system comes out.

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There is one thing that makes Xbox 1 very attractive 300k dedicated servers, making online matches smoother and less lag. Plus they said they can use the servers to handle computer Ai, which will free up processing power on the xbox to focus on graphics and physics, where ps4 has to handle everything on the system. In the end games my just be on par with each other with everything taken in to perspective. Plus Halo lol that's a win for me.

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@Zironn1 MS is not stupid. Why do you think Halo is not being released until next year? If they wanted to they could have released it this year, but I believe that Halo will be where we see the xbox one servers enhance the AI through the servers. Halo is what will sell the consoles next year. This is why Halo comes out next year around the holidays, so they can sell a package deal and show off their newly developed AI system.

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dude are you clueless or what. if they had AI on servers that would mean the game is useless without a connection. the AI on servers only works for only online games.


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@Zironn1 While those are nice concepts, it has yet to be shown how any of that will materialize. These are pre-launch hype promises. Lag is about much more than the number of servers. That's just a big number for Microsoft to throw around. Much like the "5 Billion Transistor" GPU, it doesn't mean much. The server network seems to be more geared toward the non-game tasks, such as content delivery, Fantasy Football, and all the things which upset people at the initial reveal. A matchmaking service really doesn't need much to function.

As for online processing, that sounds like a bit of a pipe dream. Even if it is technically feasible, which itself is a question mark, no developer is going to curtail their customer base by requiring an online connection for anything other than an exclusively online game. Just like how every 360 game had to be able to function without a HDD, for the small percentage of owners who were working with the flash memory versions, every X1 game will have to be able to work without an online connection (barring fully online games, obviously).

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@Zironn1 i think the AI on servers went out the window when the always on mode went away.

besides nothing replaces ram that is on the console v in a cloud or off servers.

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Cant wait for my xbox one day one

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Wait, I could have sworn before I heard some quack at Microsoft bleating out about how the performance figures of the consoles were the same....and now they're saying "well our console may not be as good from a processing standpoint, but our games are better."

Better yet, Microsoft keeps believing they're doing a good job with this console lol. The game lineup for both consoles is good. Each has games I want. But the fact is I don't want to spend an extra $100 on something that's headed straight for a box in the basement (Kinect). I'd rather take the PS4 and a couple of games or another controller or something. I will only buy an Xbox One when used ones are reasonably priced or when Microsoft finally pulls their heads out of their asses and gives the consumer what they want: Kinect-free bundle for $399.

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The PlayStation Network outage was the result of an "external intrusion" on Sony's PlayStation Network and Qriocity services, in which personal details from approximately 77 million accounts were stolen and prevented users of PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Portable consoles from playing online through the service.The attack occurred between April 17 and April 19, 2011,[1]forcing Sony to turn off the PlayStation Network on April 20. On May 4 Sony confirmed that personally identifiable information from each of the 77 million accounts appeared to have been stolen.The outage lasted 24 days Bertie Lewis

Did youguys forget already what Sony did to you! The reasons I will buya Xbone is because of HALO!! and because of the online experience. Most games I play are multiplatform but because of XBL being superior. I find that playing online with people is much more enjoyable.

Watch Dogs

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These are what I look forward to. whether it be on either.

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@AwesomeeO Yea that was bad BUT at the VERY least it was caused by hackers. and in the meantime MS are working with the NSA leaking people's info. Sony failing to protect info while MS hands it out. You MS apologists just amaze me.

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I thought it's about TV ?!!

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MS was already in a hole after their E3 debacle. But now if it's 'all about the games'... MS is really up shits creek. If you're a FPS junkie then Xbox1 is fine... but no way will MS come close to what PS4 will offer exclusively and a different variety of games. MS needs to stop with the idiotic statements because they only keep burying themselves deeper and deeper. Gamers are smart enough to decide for themselves what system they want. These MS pom pom waving type statements seem like they are being made now to convince THEMSELVES(stock holders etc...) that everything is ok... and don't jump out a 3rd story window over Xbox1.

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@ohjtbehaaave this made me laugh , thank you :D

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Microsoft press statements have been making them look kind of pathetic, lately. "It's about games, not gigaFLOPS," sounds so defensive that they seem to think they've already lost. Besides that, all that headline does is make people like me think that XBOne's specs are weak.

"Guys, guys, guys, just forget about computing power. Okay? I mean clearly Xbox is the cool one. Right? C'mon, dudes. Because, okay?"

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