Indies Respond To Xbox One Policies

@zimeron1 @stan_boyd @coolguyhero It will be based off of a windows 8 architecture, which most people are growing accustomed to. Not that complicated.

@zimeron1 @stan_boyd @coolguyhero lol you are that retarded not indie devs

@BludshedX @stan_boyd @funktacious Throughout the history of the consoles it's always been the console that has the most to offer in the arena of entertainment that has won out.

Most analysts say that due to the usefulness of netflix and amazon prime and hulu and hbo go... that most cable subscriptions will become obsolete. Why watch tv with commercials when we can simply pick a show and splurge out on it episode by episode without interruptions of commercials?

@stan_boyd @BludshedX @funktacious amongst things, yes

@BludshedX @funktacious what do you mean by extra crap, do you mean like netflix and hulu and all those other things that sony are adding onto the ps4 that xbox already had?

@BludshedX @stan_boyd @funktacious Let's not forget that they used bohth the ps eye and the ps move.. Neither was targeted at the "HARDCORE gamer"

@BludshedX @stan_boyd @funktacious there were rumors before the announcement that sony was going to be an ALL digital system with no discs at all, don't know about online drm but early rumors were full digital.

@stan_boyd @funktacious @BludshedX True. Though Sony do still seem to keep the, for lack of better words, average-hardcore gamer in mind when it comes to their console.

Though an interesting point to make would be, had Microsoft not done their reveal prior to the ps4's, would Sony have come out sounding like the great saviors as they did, or would they have incorporated similar community angering aspects?

@pezzott1 I change my mind mid way through stuff all the time, like when I painted my room, it was originally gonna be all blue, but I decided part way to leave one wall white cause it looked better.

@Acekidder @HAMMERCLAW @stan_boyd Don't know what life has tought you... but to me changing your mind mid way is either bad planning o very bad reaserch. Either one comes with a cost.

If you think thats a company "maturing", then well... good luck with the x1.

@Acekidder @HAMMERCLAW @stan_boyd fanboys alert.

@HAMMERCLAW @stan_boyd Changing policies that don't work is always a smart move Microsoft is certainly maturing as a company not digging their heels in and knowing when its time to change shows great promise for the future.

@funktacious @cnx2022 @stan_boyd @RatedSTARZ

Well, approaching someone for the first time anc calling it all silly, is already a pretty disrespectful approach, not to mention that it already indicates you probably missed a point.

2.TYou said:

It would certainly help to know what your opinions were because right now all I got is that a guy made a good point about MS decisions being parallel with gamer demands as of late

ME:

No, it would not help to know what my opinon is to help transmit my point to this dude, and you saying the same, clearly indicates you missed the mark as well.

That you think he made a good point is beyond me. The reason I even directed my attention at him was for a different reason.

3. and then a guy with a God of War profile pic (AMAZING games btw), a Sony exclusive, proceeds to lay into to him as if he's never heard of debating or persuasive counter points before (and god forbid we ever see that on the internet!). You're right we don't know your stance, but you couldn't blame someone if they felt you're probably a Sony fanboy.

That is what my profile portrays, but it also throws people off. See, That the dude and you assumed I was a SONY fan boy because of my avatar is your mistake not mine. People need to learn to listen, despite appearances. To make things worse, many people like him are too concerned with looking "smart", and making sure the witty remarks always puts them at an upper hand. That approach works sometimes, but then comes a point that it is simply an obnoxious person dressed up as a "logical" debater.

4.

YOU:

Also if 12,000 is a big number to you, you must live far away from a major city (not that there's anything wrong with that). It took millions of gamers' outcries and disappointing pre-orders for MS to realize they needed to change it. MILLIONS.

ME:

You again are not getting the point. Nice how you patronize me by having made such ridiculous assumptions that I will not even try to clarify. I am already well aware of how many gamers' outcries it took. That is even beyond the point I was making.

5. YOU:

Nice try trying to saying he's wrong because 12,000 people disagree with him but fail to mention MILLIONS do.

ME: clear clarification of your current state of ignorance. "Prove him wrong"? I was according to you, using 12, 000 who disagree to prove him wrong? Again more of your snug dis respectfulness.

You many mistakes here. Might want to think again, before calling people "silly", and making all kind of wrong assumptions, and maintain a snug attitude all the while having misunderstood the whole message.

@cnx2022 @stan_boyd @RatedSTARZ Well as a spectator of this silly argument it would certainly help to know what your opinions were because right now all I got is that a guy made a good point about MS decisions being parallel with gamer demands as of late, and then a guy with a God of War profile pic (AMAZING games btw), a Sony exclusive, proceeds to lay into to him as if he's never heard of debating or persuasive counter points before (and god forbid we ever see that on the internet!). You're right we don't know your stance, but you couldn't blame someone if they felt you're probably a Sony fanboy. Also if 12,000 is a big number to you, you must live far away from a major city (not that there's anything wrong with that). It took millions of gamers' outcries and disappointing pre-orders for MS to realize they needed to change it. MILLIONS. Nice try trying to saying he's wrong because 12,000 people disagree with him but fail to mention MILLIONS do.

@cnx2022 @stan_boyd if you say so, guess only you are titled to your opinions, I guess my being happy for indie game development being more accessible is bad. now please don't bother wasting your time responding again, cause I really don't care what you say and you don't care what I say, I will continue to talk to other people as much as I like because its my right to do so but anything you say I will simply ignore.

@stan_boyd

what in HELL are you talking about "praising, sony?" That is your 2nd incorrect assumption about me.

hate on Xbox? that is your third.

Not interested in INdie games? 4th wrong assumption.

clearly, you are not listening. Just interested in come-backs and accusing. You are what is wrong with dialogues on Internet.

@cnx2022 @stan_boyd @RatedSTARZ ah but your stance has been pretty clear in your previous posts, your stance based on what you have been posting is "praise sony, sony is awesome MS is not", are you even interested in the xbox, after all this article is about the xbox and indie games, or are you just here to hate on the xbox like the other sony fanboys. After all if you are not interested in the xbox and its indie games then shouldn't you do as you told me and go find somewhere with like minded individuals like a sony board.

@stan_boyd @cnx2022 @RatedSTARZ Does not matter how you see it. The numbers of those you are ranting about are in the thousands.

@stan_boyd @cnx2022 @RatedSTARZ

In your desire to make a witty come back you failed in 2 things. One, the reply I made to you was not one in which you were referring to indie devs.

2. You just made a huge mistake in your assumption in which you said: only the people who agree with you are? "

See what I mean, how you need to get over yourself? coming to accuse and be all witty. This had NOTHING to do wih me. You do not even KNOW my opinion on this matter, and already calling me a "hypocrite"? There goes you again.

@cnx2022 @stan_boyd @RatedSTARZ there is a reason that MS is removing these policies and its not because 12000 people are asking for online drm's and crap indie policies its because of lack of preorders cause the majority hated the old policies and 12000 is a small number. Preorders have gained a very big boost since they removed the online drm.

@cnx2022 @stan_boyd @RatedSTARZ soooooooooooooo people think its bad that indie devs can now make games without having the trouble of a third party backing them? And I too am not allowed an opinion, only the people who agree with you are? You sir are a hypocrite, I am stating my opinion and you are telling me everyone but me is allowed to, so before you try and berate me for being a "white knight" perhaps you should look at your own "white knight" attitude mr saviour