How Fallout 76 Aims To Stop People From Being Jerks

I've played Rust...and Conan Exiles. Two games that seem very similar to what Fallout 76 is proposing. Awesome experience with the GAME and building. But I'm not playing either after a week or two. Why? Yup, griefer pvp powergamers.

Fallout 76 is a wait and see for me. I am not sold on the whole every character is a real person type of deal. Is the whole game ONLY PVP? Are there going to be quests? No NPCs whatsoever? Yup, wait and seee....

My take on the matter:

I played all FO games except New Vegas, even Tactics.

My current FO4 playthrough lasted about 700h. The reason is called SimSettlements, the mod that made FO4 really great for me.

I have over 500 settlers, there are maybe 500? more NPCs across the map. It feels like I actually lead the commonwealth into the future.

And now we get FO 76.

Aside from the usual MMO problems like griefing etc. I am really sceptical how they will tie FO76 into the world.

Because what these let's say 30 vault-dwellers need to do is build settlements and make lots and lots of babies.

Otherwise where do all the people in FO 1 and 2 and Tactics and 3 and New Vegas and 4 come from?

I am a little fuzzy on the backstory, are all non-ghul, non-supermutant wastelanders descendands of vault-dwellers?

I fear this will be just an endless creature-farming void with your little personal base. Because except for people shooting each other or mobs and building little shacks they showed zero other content so far.

I hope I am wrong :)

I can't wait. I've been wanting a multiplayer Fallout game for many years.

Any game with PVP will always be full of jerks finding different ways to abuse the system to grief others, Good luck trying to stop them.

This guy has an entirely too idealistic view of the online community. I've long said the worst thing about online games is online gamers. This guy actually believes that there are going to be equal representations of merchants, traders, wanderers, builders, PvPers, and explorers.

In truth, it's going to be 80% griefing PvP'ers and 20% people who stick it out for a while and leave, only to be replaced by other naive souls until the entire world is nothing but PvP'ers. Look at how fast Sea of Thieves went downhill.

The very fact that Bethesda thinks it's OK to have roving bands of jerks that can each kill you once as acceptable is the surest sign yet that they're out of touch with their fan base. Unless there's an explicit toggle between "can be killed by other players" and "can't", this game isn't going to resonate with true Fallout fans.

No npcs is going to ruin the game I think in the end. If they wanted to make it mmorpg they should have made it more so. Adding npc quests to do together with your friends an whatnot.

I am intrigued. Interesting to see how this game works.

Any body who has played any time on line knows there are tons of ways to grief other players without actually killing them. Griefers get very inventive and live to make your gaming frustrating.

"So you can't be harassed by somebody who just keeps chasing you around the world and keeps killing you over and over again; the game literally doesn't allow that to happen to you."

So whats to stop the MANY other Griefers who are playing on line from doing it to you. It's obvious this clown does not play multi player games.

What is this, Fallout: Hello Kitty Online?

Fallout lost their way after Black Isle closed down.

It's going to be so damn terrible.

1. You're in the past. Base building doesn't matter. It's about settlements not base building. Settlements like Sanctuary could be referenced in later game like Fallout 5. That's why I liked them so much. Who cares about a base in the past?

2. No real consequences for death. Being attacked? Log out. Base being attacked log out. THE BASE COMES WITH YOU! Jesus Christ how stupid is that?

3. BASES COME WITH YOU WHEN YOU LOG OUT. This alone makes base building pretty much meaningless.

4. Online requirement. Do I really need to get into how bad this is?

5. Waste of potential. Will someone please tell me WHY this couldn't have been another 5 or 6 expansion packs in FALLOUT 4!? WHY would you take away from the success and mod popularity of FALLOUT 4 with THIS!? This could have easily been a great CO-OP expansion. Not some God damn online cash grab BULLSHIT. Save the resources for FALLOUT 4 and it would have been AMAZING! It could have been a historical Fallout VR tech chair that was discovered like in Fallout 3 DLC.

Woulda been great to have a traditional, deep Fallout game while allowing for 1 or 2 friends to join cooperatively. This giant sandbox mode will not feel like a Fallout and won't be nearly as interesting to play.

When you see a person in the world, they're a real person, and now you have to figure out [what role they play]...maybe they're being super helpful, maybe they're wandering the world as a trader and just trading with people, maybe they're being a bad guy and they're part of a raider group.

Please. Somebody doesn't play multiplayer very much. Every single person is going to play the role of lolololololimmakillyouonsight.

I like Pete Hines but he needs to stop using the word "super" like a teenage girl. I'm, like, not super comfortable with that. And stuff.

:D

They said that they want to give you a good experience and not a bad one. They stated that when you die, you don't lose your things. They also said you can pack up your entire settlement to relocate somewhere else. So I imagine that if you get nuked, you don't lose your stuff. It gets blown up yes. But gets stored into your inventory. It's more of a knock knock, "hello enemy"... rather than "hahah i blows your stuff ups!" I don't think you can nuke the same person more than once either. Like he said at E3, this is more of a challenge to get the launch codes to nuke something than trying to harass someone. There would be no permanent damage or loss from the nuke. This is probably more upsetting to the online game trolls than people that just want to play the game.

the real question for me is: what do you do if there won't be any story to follow? is the idea that it's bascially another minecraft and the goal is to just build?

i liked fallout 3 and 4, but it was always the story that pushed me forward. i seriously wouldn't know what to do with a game like this and i can't imagine i'd enjoy it. it doesn't have to of course, because i don't need to buy it. i'm just wondering what the people that are excited for this game are excited for?

"you can't be harassed by somebody who just keeps chasing you around the world and keeps killing you over and over again; the game literally doesn't allow that to happen to you."

It's been said that there will be somewhere like 12 players per 'world'.

Would they be the same set of players every time or would they be a random placement of players different each time you log in?

If it's the latter then every new player could grief up to the 'limit' against you and new players (in a random placement system) would be constantly starting with a blank slate.

Stop people from being jerks? lol...in the words of jeff goldblum "life uh....finds a way"

i wonder how its gonna work when another online survivor who randomly in that moment when he sees my base, he decides to test his fatboy.... can i respawn with my base safe in another location? or RIP base and move on?

Meh not for me. I'll stick to other fallout games with mods galore.

Minecraft pvp with limited options