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Batman: Arkham Origins "pushing the edge" of T rating

Creative director Eric Holmes says if WB had gone any further, game would have risked being bumped up to M for Mature.

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Next week's Batman: Arkham Origins features combat action that pushes the edge of the game's T for Teen age rating, according to creative director Eric Holmes.

"Arkham Origins has really intense combat action. We're really pushing the edge of T for Teen with what we're doing," Holmes said during a Reddit AMA last night. "I don't think we could have pushed it further than we have without risking a rating bump."

The next age rating above T is M for Mature. Such games feature content that is generally suitable for ages 17 and up, according to the Entertainment Software Rating Board.

The ESRB description of Batman: Arkham Origins says players will "punch, kick, and use fantastical weapons (e.g., electrically charged gloves) to defeat enemies."

Batman: Arkham Origins launches on October 25 for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Wii U, and PC, but not the Xbox One or PlayStation 4. The game is also coming to the PlayStation Vita and 3DS through Arkham Origins Blackgate. A free-to-play iOS and Android version is also in development.

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Simple economics suggest that the game should been kept at a T rating lest they lose sales to parents who actually know and care what those ratings mean. Besides, the first two games in the series were fantastic; I never thought while playing them "This is fun, but I wish there were more M-rated content in this game..."

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Anyone saying "make the next one rated M" or " who cares about the esrb ratings" you have to understand that dc comics will not support a game that is rated M. Injustice Gods Amoung Us had to do everything in its power to keep it at teen. Think back to Mortal Kombat vs DC comics, it didn't have any fatalities for a reason. I think pushing the lines for the series is awesome! Can't wait for this!

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd be more impressed if it was the ESRB themselves saying this. This is just Holmes blowing his developers trumpet.

And has GameSpot once again got the developer and publisher mixed up in the info box on the right, or have I been wrong in my distinction between the two for many, many years?

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Agreed. Getting pretty tired of the unnecessary stuff for our "entertainment". Games can be highly entertaining if you keep them clean.

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A darker more violent Batman is definitely a good thing. Make the next one Mature! Ratings are useless anyway.

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They can't do that. Dc comics won't let that happen. If so that would have been made by now

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And what did it change for 12 yo playing GTA? Oh yeah, broken guiness records

ESRB/PEGI are worthless

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Uh, what? Who in the **** would care about some stupid shit like this? Spend your time on more useful things than why a game was almost rated M instead of T.

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Doesn't mean anything to me

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Oh my GAWD!11 This gaem is gunna be, liek, SO intense u guiseQ!1

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Did my comment get deleted? .... Not that my 2 cents are sage like in anyway... but its kind of disheartening to put thought and time into a comment only to see it disappear an hour later when I'm looking to kill some time at with nerdy discussion at work :p

I have been less and less active on this site and in the comments section as of recent because 50% of the time my comments are either deleted or just don't register. I hope it's not the former, because I try hard to keep my comments from being offensive or trollish. :/

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Like it even matters. Kids get their moms to buy M-rated games regardless. I was playing GTA:Online and I heard a 12-year old kid asking how to play the game.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> It's annoying isn't it, R* need a better way to mute the other players.

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Yeah wouldn't want to actually make a mature game or anything.

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JUST MAKE IT MATURE!!!! I want to see blood and gore, mature themes...Batman is awesome when it's dark and gritty.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> The Bat does blood but he never goes as far as gore.

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should have just made it an M. Won't change a damn thing, sales wise.

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That's cool I guess. All this really means is that there is no cursing, still could be really dark just no unneeded f-bombs which certain games could use less f-bombs.

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@Catz_03 ...do you really think the only difference between The Last of Us and Batman are a few "F-bombs?"

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A darker-violent-cold-blooded Batman would be nice. A Batman who f**** criminals up in a bad way and not just send them to Arkham.

I know, I know, this is not the case, but I'm just saying, another game different than the Arkham series with that kind of Batman would be interesting.

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@Medievaldes that the problem is he wouldn't be Batman if he did that, also I don't now if you noticed but He Fucks them up pretty good remember half of his moves involve breaking bones.

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A darker violent cold-blooded Batman would be nice. A Batman who f**** criminals up in a bad way and not just send them to Arkham.

I know, I know, this is not the case, but I'm just saying, another game different than the Arkham series with that kind of Batman would be interesting.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Definitely not a bad idea.

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I would have been a lot more excited to buy an M rated Batman game. Instead we get another game stuck in some sort of sad limbo, trying to push the envelope in a small pocket instead of freeing itself entirely and making something truly ground-breaking and fresh. I'm sure it will be a good game, just like Asylum and City (albeit forgettable)- but It will suffer from the same set backs due to a rating designed to prolong the innocence of 16 year old kids.

I'm just glad we can still rent games.


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Cos seeing someones leg get twisted in a cringing way or lose your teeth when punched into the asphalt is less violent then a few drops of blood flying from a gunshot.

I still loved Batman Arkham Asylum and Akrham City <3.

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Even WITH an M rating, this game would have sold exactly the same. Everyone who were going to buy the game will STILL buy the game. To me, a good batman film/game/comic is an ultra dark one! They definitely should have just gone for an M rating instead of cutting bits out and trying to make it softcore for the kiddys!

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<< LINK REMOVED >> well, Faces of Death was ultra dark and it was... meh at best.

Batman is great when HE IS Batman. Like in Hush. That is awesome.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> COMPLETELY AGREE

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<< LINK REMOVED >> I wouldn't mind an M rating. In fact I was just playing City wishing I could watch bones break in slow mo in detective mode but there are still parents out there who care what their kids play. They're just making sure those parents aren't put off. It's all about the $. Plus, Batman's always been a "most ages" thing. Even the Nolan reboot. Although a rated R movie would be sweet, also. But not as cool as a rated R Wolverine. I wanna see what those claws would REALLY do so squishy flesh. :)

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@majin What uh, are you on about, or just on?

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CANNOT WAIT!

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bodybuilder... bodybuilder everywhere....

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OH MY GOD!! THIS GAME IS BORDERLINE UNSUITABLE FOR 13 YEAR OLDS!! SO HARDCORE!!

I don't buy T games because these are for kids like Nintendo games. I only play M games that require the maturity and worldliness of an adult to be fully appreciated, like Call of Duty and zombie games.

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<< LINK REMOVED >> i hope your being Sarcastic they are just saying its a darker batman

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Oh, so violence makes things DARKER now? I'm certain this game is targeted at your age group.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> i am an adult and i love these games, im no kingdom hearts weirdo because like i said im an adult but if you havent tried any of these games you are really missing out. just because there is no decapitations or shooting up innocent airports doesnt mean it is "kiddy"

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Close to getting M-rated!? Oh, dear god no!

Just like movies try their best to stay within PG-13 limits, no matter what kind of compromises that might lead to. Origins will probably be good, although I don't know how good it will be compared to the Arkham games.

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Wider audience? Possibly a more mature audience, just given that T-rated games tend to lack the stereotype of younger kids being annoying during online play, possibly driving off more mature players from an online thing they're trying hard enough to promote as it is.

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Why not just shoot for M?

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<< LINK REMOVED >> Because money.

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<< LINK REMOVED >><< LINK REMOVED >> Parents.

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Just make It rated M.

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